long story shortened
i sign to a pug in which ibm is signed and having witnessed him totally ruining about 2-3 pugs in the last 4 days or so i set my nick to x-html`iresetifibmcaptains... we get 12, i captain and then ibm captains within 2 min. so i reset the pug 12 people resign and i do the exact same thing with my nick and i captain again and ibm recaptains within 4 minutes of reaching player limit and i reset a 2nd time. the 3rd time meteor and me captain.
xb then proceeded to ban me, here's a log of questions i had for xb
[18:02:31] <html> hey x-bomb
[18:14:27] <b-bomb> hey html
[18:14:36] <html> i dont think ive broken any rules
[18:14:41] <html> DO NOT ABUSE THE !RESET commmand. People who keep hitting !reset when they are not in the current pug round or feel it's funny to annoy others will recieve a ban for as long as the admins feel is necessary for that person to learn their lesson. This also applies to other commands that the bot accepts.
[18:14:45] <html> i was signed
[18:14:52] <html> and i did not reset to annoy others
[18:14:57] <html> i reset to have a good pug
[18:15:01] <b-bomb> no
[18:15:04] <b-bomb> u reset
[18:15:15] <b-bomb> because u didnt want ibm captain
[18:15:18] <html> yes
[18:15:23] <html> thats not annoying others
[18:15:24] <html> in fact
[18:15:26] <b-bomb> if i did that everytime u captained
[18:15:32] <b-bomb> we would never get anywhere
[18:15:33] <html> i wouldnt captain then
[18:15:39] <html> if 1 person
[18:15:42] <html> tells me not to captain
[18:15:45] <html> i fucken wont
[18:15:49] <b-bomb> well the rules are not static like that im afraid
[18:15:53] <html> plus if im banned for this
[18:15:58] <html> ban ibm then
[18:15:59] <b-bomb> anyway
[18:16:03] <b-bomb> zero tolerence
[18:16:04] <html> for picking 4 non league in 1 pug
[18:16:11] <b-bomb> ibm didnt do anything wrong
[18:16:16] <b-bomb> he never even got to pick
[18:16:43] <html> k then ask me this
[18:16:46] <html> answer me this
[18:16:51] <i-bomb> enuf
[18:16:55] <i-bomb> no more
[18:16:59] <i-bomb> no debate
[18:17:02] <i-bomb> u r banned
[18:17:24] <html> Please take others into consideration when picking maps, for example, don't pick maps deliberately to upset others, for example - picking all the standard maps knowing it will annoy someone.
[18:17:32] <html> next time i see ibm captain
[18:17:40] <html> if he picks 2 to 4 non league maps
[18:17:43] <html> and i complain
[18:17:46] <html> will he be banned
[18:17:47] <html> ?
[18:18:16] <html> * Please try to pick fair teams during games - picking friends is obviously allowed, but please try to consider the game for all players, and keep teams balanced in terms of skill/teamplay.
[18:18:18] <html> or
[18:18:19] <html> even better
[18:18:23] <html> if he picks kubi
[18:18:27] <html> over sphere and dragoonz
[18:18:31] <html> and i complain
[18:18:35] <html> will he be banned?
[18:18:37] <html> cuz he hasnt
[18:19:35] <html> i want an answer to both my questions please
[18:20:50] <html> mr pug admin
anyway i've been banned for a week for genuinely trying to make the pug better for everyone.
i would still like an answer to my 2 questions about ibm from xb or another pug admin, because i remember ibm picking shit teams and many non league maps in a pug and imho that violates the rules so i'd like to know if i see that happening and complain will a ban follow or not?
a more reasonable approach to this i believe would be a new pug rule that would be something like this:
Every pug player (in a 4v4 or more) has a right to veto a single other person and prevent that person from captaining for 10 minutes following the reaching of the player limit (8, 10 or 12).
now why that rule? because of what happened today. I daresay i captain a lot, and i do take it seriously and it pisses me off (and i could name at least 3 other people that think the same) when people like ibm picks more then 1 non league maps nearly everytime he captains and always gives to say the least incomplete/hard to understand tactics due to poor english and typing instead of talking on ts, leading to incoherent defence and shit/ruined pug.
2 other applications to this rule would be..
if i captain im personally going to veto the best player of the pug (like wish) so that a captain with a skill value closer to mine captains hence fairer teams in the end
an application at large: i know i pick lavafort a lot and it seems many persons dislike it, well then heres your chance! veto me every pug and i wont be able to captain for 10 minutes giving other people the chance to captain and not pick lava.
I believe 10 minutes is a good balence between waiting forever and giving people time to captain. Because lets face it if veto was permanent we would have trouble getting captains, in most pugs it already takes around 5 minutes to get captains so 10 minutes isn't that bad to possibly ensure better pugs for everyone.
i sign to a pug in which ibm is signed and having witnessed him totally ruining about 2-3 pugs in the last 4 days or so i set my nick to x-html`iresetifibmcaptains... we get 12, i captain and then ibm captains within 2 min. so i reset the pug 12 people resign and i do the exact same thing with my nick and i captain again and ibm recaptains within 4 minutes of reaching player limit and i reset a 2nd time. the 3rd time meteor and me captain.
xb then proceeded to ban me, here's a log of questions i had for xb
[18:02:31] <html> hey x-bomb
[18:14:27] <b-bomb> hey html
[18:14:36] <html> i dont think ive broken any rules
[18:14:41] <html> DO NOT ABUSE THE !RESET commmand. People who keep hitting !reset when they are not in the current pug round or feel it's funny to annoy others will recieve a ban for as long as the admins feel is necessary for that person to learn their lesson. This also applies to other commands that the bot accepts.
[18:14:45] <html> i was signed
[18:14:52] <html> and i did not reset to annoy others
[18:14:57] <html> i reset to have a good pug
[18:15:01] <b-bomb> no
[18:15:04] <b-bomb> u reset
[18:15:15] <b-bomb> because u didnt want ibm captain
[18:15:18] <html> yes
[18:15:23] <html> thats not annoying others
[18:15:24] <html> in fact
[18:15:26] <b-bomb> if i did that everytime u captained
[18:15:32] <b-bomb> we would never get anywhere
[18:15:33] <html> i wouldnt captain then
[18:15:39] <html> if 1 person
[18:15:42] <html> tells me not to captain
[18:15:45] <html> i fucken wont
[18:15:49] <b-bomb> well the rules are not static like that im afraid
[18:15:53] <html> plus if im banned for this
[18:15:58] <html> ban ibm then
[18:15:59] <b-bomb> anyway
[18:16:03] <b-bomb> zero tolerence
[18:16:04] <html> for picking 4 non league in 1 pug
[18:16:11] <b-bomb> ibm didnt do anything wrong
[18:16:16] <b-bomb> he never even got to pick
[18:16:43] <html> k then ask me this
[18:16:46] <html> answer me this
[18:16:51] <i-bomb> enuf
[18:16:55] <i-bomb> no more
[18:16:59] <i-bomb> no debate
[18:17:02] <i-bomb> u r banned
[18:17:24] <html> Please take others into consideration when picking maps, for example, don't pick maps deliberately to upset others, for example - picking all the standard maps knowing it will annoy someone.
[18:17:32] <html> next time i see ibm captain
[18:17:40] <html> if he picks 2 to 4 non league maps
[18:17:43] <html> and i complain
[18:17:46] <html> will he be banned
[18:17:47] <html> ?
[18:18:16] <html> * Please try to pick fair teams during games - picking friends is obviously allowed, but please try to consider the game for all players, and keep teams balanced in terms of skill/teamplay.
[18:18:18] <html> or
[18:18:19] <html> even better
[18:18:23] <html> if he picks kubi
[18:18:27] <html> over sphere and dragoonz
[18:18:31] <html> and i complain
[18:18:35] <html> will he be banned?
[18:18:37] <html> cuz he hasnt
[18:19:35] <html> i want an answer to both my questions please
[18:20:50] <html> mr pug admin
anyway i've been banned for a week for genuinely trying to make the pug better for everyone.
i would still like an answer to my 2 questions about ibm from xb or another pug admin, because i remember ibm picking shit teams and many non league maps in a pug and imho that violates the rules so i'd like to know if i see that happening and complain will a ban follow or not?
a more reasonable approach to this i believe would be a new pug rule that would be something like this:
Every pug player (in a 4v4 or more) has a right to veto a single other person and prevent that person from captaining for 10 minutes following the reaching of the player limit (8, 10 or 12).
now why that rule? because of what happened today. I daresay i captain a lot, and i do take it seriously and it pisses me off (and i could name at least 3 other people that think the same) when people like ibm picks more then 1 non league maps nearly everytime he captains and always gives to say the least incomplete/hard to understand tactics due to poor english and typing instead of talking on ts, leading to incoherent defence and shit/ruined pug.
2 other applications to this rule would be..
if i captain im personally going to veto the best player of the pug (like wish) so that a captain with a skill value closer to mine captains hence fairer teams in the end
an application at large: i know i pick lavafort a lot and it seems many persons dislike it, well then heres your chance! veto me every pug and i wont be able to captain for 10 minutes giving other people the chance to captain and not pick lava.
I believe 10 minutes is a good balence between waiting forever and giving people time to captain. Because lets face it if veto was permanent we would have trouble getting captains, in most pugs it already takes around 5 minutes to get captains so 10 minutes isn't that bad to possibly ensure better pugs for everyone.
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