Sorry to say MC, but your arguments are really flawed, and I’m getting tired of explaining why these points are so useless, anyway, here we go again:
“As OD mentioned, the mod is seriously bugged. I was watching a game recently on COH server and wish died in 4 pistol shots with shield belt from Squirrels pistol on bridge.”
--It was already said, enforcers are powerful in zp, nothing new here. As to me killing wish and he crying about it, should I show you 1 billion other times when people have done the same to me with minigun in less time by the way, since mini locks you down also (you can still do it, zp or non-zp, since mini is still gay and a non-zp weapon, especially in certain servers, but that is a different talk). Funny thing is no one complains, because sure people with low ping love it, as they can abuse it to high pingers any time they want to…
“If people have a bad ping, they have a bad ping. I played in this league with 56k for 3 years, even when everyone had their brand new 512k ADSL connections, It was something I had to put up with and as frustrating it was I put up with it.”
--I have put up with it for 8 years. I played on div1 against you (mi5) and others with 56K from us (400 ping) when UTA was on their prime by the way, just to give you some perspective.
“As a 56ker you also have the advantages of sliding, I remember the amount of flames being thrown by people saying get a better connection.”
--I don’t buy for a second that a 56ker has advantages over low pingers, I invite anyone to prove me wrong. Not to repeat myself again, but even when you’re “sliding”, you can’t do shit, and what about the rest of the time (99%) when you simply can’t kill/hammer anything? And could you please describe me how you feel when you have to deal with connection problems all the time, and at the same time idiots that have the privilege of a better connection flaming you because you have bad connection?
“Then after the better connection comes the, oh you low ping botter lol.”
--Yes, on American servers I get that flaming. Guess what, both times it’s the idiots that do the flaming
“There is advantages and disadvantages to ping, granted that having a lower ping is overall more beneficial.”
--Hm, is this still in question?
“I know your probably not preaching here, but you should know that it’s your choice to play on euro servers, your an American and should just put up with it.”
-- Nice attitude, do you have that in real life also? I play wherever I have fun, and get to hang out with people I consider friends, US, Europe or anywhere else. If I’m not mistaken, you choose to play here also. As I said before, I have put up with it for 8 years, way longer than anyone else has. Check stats as to when an American played on a competitive div1 level for this long, pretty much all gave up at 2 years or so, because they had enough of the abuse. We have a way to make things a bit better now (notice the bit part please), but hey, since I’m an American according to you, I have to put up with the abuse and bad connection, while you the privileges one should not have to put up with anything.
“It’s a shame N/A league died, I played with DV for few years on US servers with a higher ping than you get here and played for the fun of it.”
--Indeed, though I wonder how long would you have played at this point… And by the way, US assault died because of all the childish flames and people not giving a shit about fair play. UTA was much better at the time, but not by much now it seems.
“You say that it’s all about winning and you’re interested in the fun, but by the same logic you’re trying to push for ZP so that you can win more. Winning = fun right? People don’t like to lose.”
--Speak for yourself please. Again, ZP makes it possible for me to have fun, as in at least I can use sniper and shock to aim at a person, instead of playing a guessing game and shooting 10 meters ahead of a person. This has NOTHING to do with winning. You can talk to anyone that knows me well on UT if you don’t believe me.
“I wouldn’t play a single game on ZP. If the option was put in the league and both clans agree -fair enough, just I personally wouldn’t play that game. If it became mandatory I would leave the league.”
--Too bad that you can’t deal with it, even though a lot of people have dealt with a lot worse shit for a lot longer, just goes to show how different some people look at a game…
“I’m sorry you and few others have a bad ping but the majority of players in this league have a sub 100 ping which is more than playable.”
--Cool, so minority = nothing I guess in your view
“I think you’re a good player, I think that your ping helps you here on euro servers; “
--My ping helps me??? If you mean compared to some people that get even higher ping, sure, isn’t that stating the obvious again though? Yes, 160 ping is better than 200 ping, and so on and so on.
“I genuinely have problems hitting you, as you do hitting me. However if I was playing (which I was) on American servers I never asked or would ask for things to benefit me as it’s my choice to play there.”
--I have a lot more trouble hitting you than you do to hit me, again I invite you or anyone else to prove me wrong. Oh, and tell that to any euro that has played me on american server, where they run away saying this is unplayable. They "choose" not to play there because they can simply exploit their low ping, and the majority status in a different server, so they don't even bother with considering to play on a different server in the first place. You can easily see it in the very few times euros played serious games on an american server.
“If ZP is fully fixed, there are no weapon bugs, the game feels exactly the same as it does now without ZP but it gives you the advantage of playing on a lower ping I would be more than happy. While playing with ZP it screws the weapons, the feeling is completely messed up and as Uzi mentioned weird angles and so many other things it’s unfair for the 70% of the league with good pings as Supermic writes to have to adapt for the minority.”
--Sure, if pigs could fly, I would fly too. Unfortunately, no one has the time to spend on reworking all UT netcode to make things perfect for both low pingers and high pingers. In the mean time, can’t we make use of what is available from the wonderful work that developers like cratos and the zp original owner did, free of charge? And, as supermic said, can you please describe all these bugs you refer to, without repeating again the 2 bugs that are mentioned 100000 times?
Ok, I apologize for the lengthy post, I keep regretting spending so much time on pointing out fallacies, but I always do it in the hopes that other people will see the reality, and think twice before going on with their “amens”.
Please, do not take anything for granted, realize whatever you have at the moment is because others made it possible for you, so if you have good in your heart, you will work the same way to make it so for others also.
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