Ut2k4 Demo The official what do you think of the demo Thread
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not trooBart said:
its just ASSault that has been "blessed" with the nerved hammer.
I been hammer jumping there and the only usefull one is getting from the truck with the arm to the extended platform to avoid spam...
You see Willhaven ..that map you made is spammy and to avoid it you need alternative routes. Not different routes that ALL lead to one spamzor corridor...or one objective where you have to sit for an hour while at least 3-4 guys SPAM ur ass with rox...
Your answer would be "yes, you will have to fight.."
a fight is fair when its an equal battle..and the battles on assault are NEVER equal you know why?
Because U dont know where the opponent is going but he VERY well knows where you want to go...
THATs the difference and thats where spam comes in. Because there is no choice as an attacker and especcialy on convoy and astenosphere. You have to get thru that "corridor" and you cant because c*nts are givin you some nasty blind spam...
no alternatives = no additional skill requiered (read spam / read hammerjumping / rocket launchin etc) = linearity = boring = death of assault2004
Assault is teh pwn.... it just feels like ... err... what was that map with the train called again?... 
.... the very first time I played it on a public server. Shitloads of sniping newbs, a few people with fancy moves. And it ROCKED. Just like 04 does.
UT2004 is the future... No talk of upgrading the league to 2k4? I'd be back then....
Just so you know, a Barton2500 and a GF5900 suffice, you can crank every single variable to max and still get amazing framerates.
Just gotta learn that pussy thingy they nowadays call the rocket launcher.....
.... the very first time I played it on a public server. Shitloads of sniping newbs, a few people with fancy moves. And it ROCKED. Just like 04 does.UT2004 is the future... No talk of upgrading the league to 2k4? I'd be back then....
Just so you know, a Barton2500 and a GF5900 suffice, you can crank every single variable to max and still get amazing framerates.
Just gotta learn that pussy thingy they nowadays call the rocket launcher.....
Demo has only medium textures, i doubt u can crank everything up and expect good fps on final release really.
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So what, it still looks gorgeousJapster said:
And watching the screenshots only one thing comes to my mind: OHNOZ! Who the fuck still wants to play old UT? Although I agree on the rocketlaunch/hammerjump issue, the hammerlaunch and the double rocketlaunch made the gametype too esoteric for the casual player, in effect dooming the gametype to a nice. With 04 you have still a lot of funny moves, interesting shortcuts etc; Maybe someone should write up a rocktelaunch/hammerjump mod and there you go, there remains nothing to be disliked about 04. Except for the fact that you have to break old routines with ancient maps you can play blind, in the dark with one hand tied to your back only your nose on the movement keys.
change. evolve. rise. Don't end like those patethic CS dudes, still playing de_dust for the next 20 years....
UT2004 is the future... (<--- get real)Keyol45743241 said:Assault is teh pwn.... it just feels like ... err... what was that map with the train called again?...
UT2004 is the future... (<--- get real) No talk of upgrading the league to 2k4? (<<--- HELL NO)
No talk of upgrading the league to 2k4? (<<--- HELL NO)
as 2k4 is a piece of crap
nuff said
At least you have arguments which make sense. Well... I'm gonna play the NEW assault. Hope to see you guys there.
Bye...
Nuke=+MoD+=(ret.)
Bye...
Nuke=+MoD+=(ret.)
iwe actually found that i enjoy playing the game, maybe just for change...
some points that i'd like to make though:
1. vechicles in the full version maps... imo they shoulda kept em in onslaught fs
if i'd want vehicles i would go play tribes or unreal xmp
2. with removing hammerjumps they tried to nullify the steep learning curve... what iwe noticed tho is that its just like it always was what comes to that; if there are only noobs on the server i can take the map in 2-3 minutes, then defend the first objective full time, either by spam at it or by grabbing rockets from the first person i kill and kill attackers near their spawn..
the second point here is that assault still requires loads of map knowledge to master the mode... usually there is one route or another that i can use to sneak past defenders who aren't that familiar with the map, only objective where this isn't possible would be the rear door thingie or whatever it is called (the one b4 side doors switch)
as a third point comes the shield gun: it's both useful and annoying protecting u from sniper bullets, mini and pulse heck even against rockets, flak and bio; iwe seen a m8 who really masters the thing use it to get the rear door switch with about 3 guys spamming bio right at him... the possibilities with this weapon are wide, and something that always just doesnt fit into assault the way i'd want it..
edit: so the point of this post was that assault still will draw the same kind of people as before (the ones who wonder how it was done, not the ones getting pissed and leaving) except that it might not interest them for as long because there simply isn't anything new to find after a few weeks...
some points that i'd like to make though:
1. vechicles in the full version maps... imo they shoulda kept em in onslaught fs
if i'd want vehicles i would go play tribes or unreal xmp 2. with removing hammerjumps they tried to nullify the steep learning curve... what iwe noticed tho is that its just like it always was what comes to that; if there are only noobs on the server i can take the map in 2-3 minutes, then defend the first objective full time, either by spam at it or by grabbing rockets from the first person i kill and kill attackers near their spawn..
the second point here is that assault still requires loads of map knowledge to master the mode... usually there is one route or another that i can use to sneak past defenders who aren't that familiar with the map, only objective where this isn't possible would be the rear door thingie or whatever it is called (the one b4 side doors switch)
as a third point comes the shield gun: it's both useful and annoying
protecting u from sniper bullets, mini and pulse heck even against rockets, flak and bio; iwe seen a m8 who really masters the thing use it to get the rear door switch with about 3 guys spamming bio right at him... the possibilities with this weapon are wide, and something that always just doesnt fit into assault the way i'd want it..edit: so the point of this post was that assault still will draw the same kind of people as before (the ones who wonder how it was done, not the ones getting pissed and leaving) except that it might not interest them for as long because there simply isn't anything new to find after a few weeks...
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I think that UT2K3 is trying to compete with half-life 2 (pff)
They released a game last year, when hl2 was supposed to be released, then it was supposedly moved to april 04 and here is 2k4, so will ut stop releasing games when hl2 comes out? But having played both of them I wont change my opinion that HL2 > UT2K3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10......... ANY day
They released a game last year, when hl2 was supposed to be released, then it was supposedly moved to april 04 and here is 2k4, so will ut stop releasing games when hl2 comes out? But having played both of them I wont change my opinion that HL2 > UT2K3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10......... ANY day