Gay Marriage

[Mughi]

Yes it does have backing , i explained already were the gay want to change the catholic church , but teh church wont let them

I am glad you at least have the decency to admit its an offensive view of things I suppose.

Now, once again - stop talking about the church in relation to this. This discussion, is regarding civil arrangements, not religious marriages.

 

[Mughi]

Ah, except you edited the post.

Great.

 

[Maz]

im out of this discussion , it aint gonna change anything anyways

and it aint really worth my rep either

 

[Wintermute]

And i dont see how it is offensive , because i do ont badmouth gay people at all

You really have no clue, do ya?

for future reference, when you use the term "faggs" or "queers", that's Badmouthing. It's exactly the same as calling someone a "nigger", and just as unacceptable.

 

[Maz]

"nigger" is a rascist term , queer is a term used by many people instead of "gay". If this was offensive , there woudnt be a tv show about 5 gay designers called "queer eye for the straight guy" , would there. ( and for those who are not familiar with the show , its a makeover show that runs on popular family stations , not a controversial porn movie )

 

[Maz]

anyways , as this seems to be pissing you two off very much ill leave , gl getting marriages legal

 

[Wintermute]

It's all about how it's used.

Many young black men use the term "nigger" to describe themselves, including quite a few rappers. It's still not acceptable to use it as a term to describe black people - especially when you are having a go at them.

In exactly the same way, "queer" is used by gay men themselves, without the offense. That doesn't mean it's okay for you to use it in the way you did.

 

[Cazzy]

Jesus Fucking Christ, do your knuckles scrape on the groun when you walk, redneck?

"if faggs wanna be faggs" ???

That's no way for human beings to talk. If you can't talk about a group of people without using such an offensive term, then I don;t give a shit what you think.

NEXT!

Trust me. I hear those things so often I don't even care anymore. Some think they're though when they say it I guess.

 

[pykenike]

well this discussion is pretty much to an end if you ask me. (atleast for me)


you are born as gay
you don't hurt anyone with it
it's a tax advantage
it's just because we arn't used to the term "gay-marriage"


so i don't see any reasons to ban the marriage in a politcal way, i also am against a other title "partnership bond" or summon, why make a diffrence, it just sounds a bit "you're only a weird gay" so you are not allowed to call yourself a marriad man/woman

threat them just the same as everybody else!

 

[JACKEL]

You really have no clue, do ya?

for future reference, when you use the term "faggs" or "queers", that's Badmouthing. It's exactly the same as calling someone a "nigger", and just as unacceptable.

i thought it was unaccaptable when u said religion was cancer, feels funny seeing people saying bad stuff innit.
in sum way now u know how i felt u saying those stuff about the religion.
i know u gonna post with saying ye but thats my opinion and he's just caling people names.
well re-read ur posts and see how many swear words and other silly sentence's is innit.
thats all i wanna say in this topic, it's dead and whats said has been said.

we know eachother's opinion on this fact some agree and some disagree and some people just dotn have a clue what the fuck their talking about lol, i dont wanna call names 'ere or sth ( /me points at AMAZING)

so cya and it was a good discussion lol

 

[-CrackKing-]

Why is marriage so important anyway? IMO marriage is a word wich only describes a relationship u have with someone.

I agree with this. Marriage is nothing these days. How many people get divorced these days compared to 20+ years ago? As to whether gay couples should be allowed to marry, why not? I was raised a Catholic and taught that gay people are simply the same as paedophiles, and need to be 'deprogrammed' to relinquish their urges. Of course with age you develop common sense, and realise that in fact the religion you were raised in to is the one that has the problem.

A table or a chair does NOT want to marry YOU. But if two LOVING people want to get married, then i see no reason why not. The key word is LOVE. Loving couples should be allowed to marry.

 

[uZi]

werd andy

 

[BBStr@nge]

Man..................

extremely sad to see so much negativity......

good points well made Mughs. Wints would have been too if he wasn't baited by unbelievably sad well...redenecks.
Shit I woulda got just as angry. No point trying to have a discussion with pond life fs.

Nice CK as always.

 

[Useless]

The catholic church had theire bible and beliefs for years (like any religion) , and suddenly some people who have diffrent beliefs randomly come along and try to change it. Fair ? not . In fact qiute rude and obnoxious.

Just saw this. Fkin ell, what hope is there...

 

[pykenike]

Just saw this. Fkin ell, what hope is there...

saw that aswell, the one who wrote is quite naieve thinking that nobody was born gay 100 years ago, sure there where gay's they only didn't get the chance to express it

 

[ProPain]

gay ppl should have the right to be as miserable as the next person, i see absolutely no problems with them marrying.
Gay people were around when the "holy" book was written and they still are, isnt it about time we stop denying the fact that they exist and that they should have the right to have the same marital / legal status as everybody.

While i can understand what jackel says, when i think of marriage i also think of a man and a woman , but even that was different in the past. In some countries white people were not allowed to marry other races, and black people were not allowed to marry at all. Lets be honest the church has problems with everything, why do you think it is slowly dying? The definition of marriage should be , 2 people who love eachother and are willing to spend a small fortune on a party.

as for Amazing you redneck trailertrash excuse for a fleshbag pls STFU if you can't post a thread without sounding like a turd.

 

[HUEY]

gay ppl should have the right to be as miserable as the next person, i see absolutely no problems with them marrying.

 

[IceDragon]

LET THE CHURCH DIE

 

[Toa$ter]

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hard to believe how some of u here think, pretty much racism in my eyes, saying that (this is how I experience it anyway) gay people have no right whatsoever ESPECIALLY not marriage, why can't it be for them as well lol? It's not because u don't think much of marriage, that they do as well. Them having children is ant entirely other topic tbh , but I can't see any point at all why ppl would stop gay people from being happy, if marriage is what makes them happy. (and going 'what's next' , is pretty much saying that they shouldn't have ANY rights at all, cuz OH MY GOD WHAT IF THEN THEY GET ANOTHER RIGHT THAT WE ALL HAVE?! THEY CAN'T HAVE IT !! NEVAH!!!!!)

sounds pretty much right, if I would say it now.

 

[Largo]

Largo - the whole point of this thread is not insisting that a church has to take gay marriages.

Its me complaining bitterly that the churches insist that I and everyone else practice their religion.

Its them insisting that even civil partnerships should not be allowed in registry offices even when it has nothing to do with a church.

Preists having homosexual relationships are rarely sacked, just like those who abuse children are protected from prosecution by the church

Think you got me wrong, because that is what some ppl are insisting on and advocating in the local debate in our newspapers. Maybe its differerent where you live, but thats what they are trying to get here. Here religious (protestant christian and every other state registered religion) and civil marriage are legally equal, so im just insisting they chose the civil option, or the blessing of some other religion or branch of christianity that possibly allows it. If you are still fighting for legal equality between those types of marriage, go for it, it surprises me you dont already have it.
Im in no way advocating that you should be forced to practice christianity (in any of its forms) nor any other religion. I may want some rules enforced, like dont do so-and-so, strive to behave like this-and-that, but that doesnt have to be through a religion and law already covers some of it.
My point about sacking priest is not because they are homosexual, i dont think that in itself disqualifies them though it would make me highly critical about them, but when they, despite it not being allowed, wed homosexuals or for that matter break other things that i want them to uphold, then they are not doing their job in my view.
What keep the local debate ongoing isnt really that they want religious blessing, that has simply become one of the arguments. What they really want is the same legal status and benefits (tax benefits mainly) as civil marriage, since they currently can only get what is called a registered partnership which isnt as economically beneficial (with some exceptions). Its also easier to quit, not requiring a divorce and isnt subject to the same laws as that would be, so its not as binding legally and you probaly dont feel ur making as large a commitment as a marriage.
As long as its just a civil marriage and the associated legal rights they want im rather indifferent, its just the whole church part, unless like i said they find a religion allowing it, and the kids issue, which will likely come up again soon. They arent exactly the only groups who should be denied kids imo.

btw, pld jackal. Nice to see someone has some spine.