24 Hour Drinking Licenses for UK!

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Ok as of february 5th this year all pubs/clubs/bars will be allowed to apply for 24 hour drinking licences, as a pose to the current standard licences where most pubs shut at 11pm and then a majority of bars and clubs shut at 2am. There is a lot of dispute on this cus of the "binge drinking" culture this country now seems to have and the reputation the UK has for alcoholism compared to europe. Critics say alcohol related violence will increase and its not a good idea cus of health costs, and only more fighting will break out etc... but whats all ur opinions on the situation...

Personally i dont see why people should have to go to work at 8 am and still worry about drunken thugs stumbling out of a nite club in the morning at 8 am... alchohol related violence is seriously bad here especially my town. I wanna know peoples opinion on the :

Relaxation of the opening hours, whether its a good idea, and whether its gonna cut down on crime or not cus imo... its gonna seriously go sky high if places are open till like 6am! cus people cant control there drink... this post is mainly aimed at UK peeps btw cus it affects u :P

Discuss! :P /nick
 
Well tbh I think you're right in some respects;

Binge drinking will increase, and there will be a related increase in alcohol influenced violence... But imo it won't last more than 6 months.

I think that 50% of the pubs who opt to go with a 24hr license will probably drop it after 12 months due to lack of interest/business.

There's no way many pubs will be able to afford to stay open the extra hours, when during the middle of the week, the only people who will be in the pubs in the early hours will be the people who spend most of their lives in the pub anyway.

Staffing costs will be greater during the twilight hours, so it won't be feasable for many pubs to stay open.

Chances are that many pubs will opt to only do the 24hr license on the grounds they will only stay open Friday & Saturday nights; otherwise I don't see it being very profitable.

IMO this is just another fad that will die down after a year.

Oh.. and I agree: Northampton sucks arse.
 
Well there's an awful lot of violence related to binge drinking where I live too, but that doesn't really mean I'd be against the ruling.

Do people drink too fast (and get too drunk) because they are trying to get tooled up before the 2am closing? Will the longer hours not make people pace themselves more?

I think it's physically impossible for people to drink as binge drinkers do up until 8am unless they take some other drug(s). I can see more people just sitting around chatting minding there own business at 5am than people up for a ruckus.

Tbh I'm neither for nor against, I'm not a pub person and if I go to a club I'm happy to leave at 3am :) I'd be eager to see what would happen if it was ruled in favour. Can kinda understand peoples concerns, though.
 
I think that turning lots of drunks out onto the streets at exactly the same time makes the violence worse.

When there is no closing time there will be a lot fewer people on the streets at any one time, and less chance of a flash fight.

There will probably always be drunken fights, but I dont think that it will get any worse.
 
wot andy said, personally i dont go to the pub that often, and when i go to a club im normally wanting to leave as it closes.. just means i wont have to leave with the drunken cunts who wanna fight

I think the new law is treating people more like adults, since they can choose when they wanna start/stop drinking - down to the public to control themselves innit
 
It works in the rest of europe, its worth a go here imo, tho like timo said, i think most places will apply for a licence and then just use the extra hours at weekends.

I think its definately worth a go, regardless of all the bullshit in certain papers about it (Daily Mail especially)
 
dispite the fact you aimed it at UK peeps i just give my opinion about it...

giving the bars a 24 open licence isn't really a bad thing imo, as already mentioned it gives the people more a adult choise.

where i live bars are opened till 2 or 3 am and on fridays and sundays till 5. the profit about opening so late is that people will not leave all at the same time some will leave early, (2 am) some will leave around half past 3 and some of them stay till 5 and everything inbetween.
people don't hang around the pubs after closing time but will go to home more easy. you kinda avoid the situations where voilence can take place.
but most important is the behaviour of the english people in general, don't get me wrong but i think it would be a new experience to stay to 2 am instead of 11 am, thus getting more drunk, so i expect (mostly in the beginning) that people stay "to" long and getting "to" drunk....

but after some time it will get better i think..
 
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Sullen_Scrota said:
I think that turning lots of drunks out onto the streets at exactly the same time makes the violence worse.

When there is no closing time there will be a lot fewer people on the streets at any one time, and less chance of a flash fight.

There will probably always be drunken fights, but I dont think that it will get any worse.
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me looks at ur avatar :eyeroll: :P
 
ppl will arrive later and go home later in general, as for openingtimes, a few pubs will prolly have the money to stay open a lot longer than the others, in effect ppl will go to their fav pub until it closes and if they wanna party some more they go to the ones which are still open. drinks will go up in price as well prolly
 
I dunno if we can expect major changes in the People of the Uk's habits! Hosptital figures show increase in binge drinking including an especially worrying growing trend it women (Who up until recent times were no where near as likely as men to binge drink). Part of the way we socialise and have fun is cultural... And this is not likely to change quickly. Whether the later hours will effect our lives much is another issue. Personally I don't think that it is going to make much difference at all. There will be a few hardcore who will go on to regullarly utilize the late hours but for most people it will just mean a slightly longer session at the weekend but eventually everyone gets tired and goes home! I used to work in a pub where the staff would do AT and on most nights we woulld give up at around 3, and remember we hadn't started drinking until 10-11.

I don't forsee any moves to a more civilised, slower drinking, taking it easy culture... It just isn't our way. But neither do I forsee a mass increase in pissheads and people in hospital needing their stomachs pumping. It will just be the same old friday night, but longer!!

On a side note when the Ozzies changed their 2 hour law (Yes a mere 2 hours a day was put aside for alcohol) they went nutz! and they still have a hit the pub and hit it hard culture! They were so used to having to get blatted as quick as possible that they kept up their habits even when they now had all day. We have bred our own binge drinking by restricting our rights.... Maybe things will get better in time?

Tim
 
I think as the umpalumpa said Pubs will use their license at weekends and stay open for as long as it is economical for them to.
the one thing that will be different will be that time when you just fancy a jar and think fuck it I wont get into the pub for last orders ... woohoo that is one thing I’m happy about .
I just hope that what is many peoples first job i.e. barman/woman doesn’t become a "you have to agree to work all hours godsend" situation coz that would be a nightmare.

there is a cellar bar just round the corner from where I live which I have the romantic idea of strolling into at 4 in the morning ordering a scotch and telling Al the fat friendly barkeep who spends his day cleaning glasses with his apron and pouring drinks all my problems ... for which he hooks me up with another shot "on the house" ..... "one for my baby and one more the road"
unfortunately ... there isn’t a fat friendly barkeep who spends his days cleaning glasses and pouring drinks listening to people drown their sorrows and the chances of me getting a shot on the house is extremely remote seeing as the girls behind the bar probably get their pay docked for every ml not accounted for by the brewery and I’ve never heard anyone ever quote frank Sinatra song titles to me in there … or anywhere else if I’m honest …


and stop Binge drinking ... he is thin enough as it is ffs I don’t think he could survive if he lost any more fluids....
 
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ppl in the netherlands binge a lot from what i can see
a growing trend is the home binging and finishing off with a cheap nite out in the town
ppl get liquoured up at home and hit the town around midnight
 
Stiffler said:
We have bred our own binge drinking by restricting our rights.
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Indeed, and if I recall correctly, the restrictive hours were set during either World War I or WWII when pilots would stay in the pub all night and then go and try and fly a bombing mission. The laws meant that no more alcohol could be bought during the night hours, and most people would go to bed.

Why these laws were not lifted after the war, and why we've had to wait 60 years or more I do not know. If the binge culture exists in The Netherlands too, which (afaik) doesn't have restrictive purchasing or drinking laws; then I do not think that restricting that freedom has caused the "social problem" put before us.

Personally, I dont see binge drinking and it's side effects as a social problem. I see it as the goverments or law enforcements problem, and it requires more police to be on the streets. One thing we have continually done is remove bobbies from the beat.. and now we are surprised that violence errurpts every weekend the drunks are thrown out of the pub.

Like Sully said, if they werent all on the streets at the same time, it would be easier to deal with and there would be less fighting at least.

But the "binge drinking problem" is making some people exceptionally rich, and that is a benefit for that part of society, as well as the small business owners selling fast foood, taxi drivers etc. It's an entire economy that is a problem? What we spending all of our taxed pounds on when we buy a pint, if it isn't protection from the Police and fixing me if I break, at the hospital?
 
hmm....it´s weird 4 me if i think we would have the same situation here in germany like u had the whole time

if we go out @ WE ...we don´t leave our house be4 23 in the night, and come back around 7 in the mornin, and sometimes we join a other club till midday :loaded:

would be a pain to leave a club and don´t find a way to get back home when drunk
the trains start to drive around 5-6 in the mornin (if u don´t live in a big city)

i remember 10 years ago...we came out of a club at 10 in the mornin....in the middle of the city,
where all the "normal" peeps did their shoping :boozer: :lol:

my fav. club at that time opend sunday mornin at 6, and closed monday mornin at 1 :mosher:
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