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it was a good decision to give Russia a part of their teritory (small part...im not sure, but it was ~10% of their teritory...some Suomi can say more about that :P )...why?
because they kept independent (Finland is a country where lived not so many ppl, they couldnt beat SU, so it was best way to finish this war while they can stop it and dont lost independent)...after war they was a free country, not like Poland, Czechoslovakia, DDR, Hungary ;)

Not true, they could have attacked Stalingrad during Continuation War and destroyed the Soviets.
 
well...about Russians, normal ppl in russia are friendly and nice, but some Putin's, Medvedev's are showing the worts side of new Russian Federation...unfortunately propaganda in Russia is working very well...and for young Russians Putin is an idol i like Russians, but not a Russia...
i saw how many new rich russians behave in the foreign countries.
Ridiculous, disrespectful and liek a joke.

english, german and american visitors maybe arent loved in foreign countries, but compared to those newish rich russians, they are angels.
 
btw it was no secret that the russian army in the pre- and even early WW2 era, was a mess.
They were bad trained, had oldish weapons/tanks and a lack of organisation.

The only benefit russia always had and will have: their incredible hugeness and hard winters.

The german army could have conquered russia as fast as they did with France, but thankfully they underestimated teh hugeness and the winter. At the end they suffered from teh lack of ressources and reinforcements.
So Hitler learned the same lesson Napoleon learned centuries earlier.
 
Not true, they could have attacked Stalingrad during Continuation War and destroyed the Soviets.

I think that russians had enuff army to easy defeat finland, and imo it was good decision that they gave part of their teritory to soviet union
 
well...Smantie...imo this small Finland army couldnt win this war...they finished war as fast as it was possible...so small country couldnt keep possitions agains so big army like Red Army...

its like now: Russia - Georgia...again Russia/Soviet Union :P Georgia wanted as fast as it possible stop Russian 'offense'
 
Finland is the only democratic country to have ever gone to war on another democratic country.

pld:lol:

Except England and Germany. And USA and Germany. And most of the rest of the world and Germany. But apart from that...
 
i saw how many new rich russians behave in the foreign countries.
Ridiculous, disrespectful and liek a joke.

english, german and american visitors maybe arent loved in foreign countries, but compared to those newish rich russians, they are angels.
and how the ridiculously rich americans , germans and english behave? even worse. Idiocy doesnt have a nationality
 
i didnt tell that Yeltsin was better as president...you give some pluses of Putin/Medvedev...now i will only say:
- free media in Russia and freedom of expression (Politkovskaya, Khodorkovsky)
- Litvinenko
- Georgia/Ossetia/Abkhazia
- "Putin goverment grow up life standard of poor and old russian" ;)
i can find many more...

Khodorkovsky was a junior Komsomol aparatchik who over the night bought a few billion $ worth oil company for peanuts ( i think it was 200 000$) and then refused 2 give his share back 2 country from which he stole and for that he only got 15 years in jail ( i would give him 40 at least) so much for cruelty.

Politovskaya and Litvinenko were true freedom fighters and democrats dont forget berezovsky 2 ( yeah sure god bless america)

Gerogia first invaded Ossetia ( trained by american and israeli commandos and instructors (gerorgia a 3rd world country has a military budget of 930 million $(yeah lol sure, its like u getting 4 godlikes in a row vs 4 example wish), using a forbidden cluster bombs and continuing a genocide against the ossets and abhaz ppl which started in the stalin era. Ossets and Abhaz made up 70-85% of ppl in those gerorgian areas + both abhazian and south ossetia were soviet socialist autonomous regions in CCCP which gives them right 2 break away from georgia much like kosovo did from serbia.

-and last but not least stop patronizing russia, think about how ur country and every east european country was fucked up during the last decade of the last century.
 
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Khodorkovsky was a junior Komsomol aparatchik who over the night bought a few billion $ worth oil company for peanuts ( i think it was 200 000$) and then refused 2 give his share back 2 country from which he stole and for that he only got 15 years in jail ( i would give him 40 at least) so much for cruelty.

Politovskaya and Litvinenko were true freedom fighters and democrats dont forget berezovsky 2 ( yeah sure god bless america)

Gerogia first invaded Ossetia ( trained by american and israeli commandos and instructors (gerorgia a 3rd world country has a military budget of 930 million $(yeah lol sure, its like u getting 4 godlikes in a row vs 4 example wish), using a forbidden cluster bombs and continuing a genocide against the ossets and abhaz ppl which started in the stalin era. Ossets and Abhaz made up 70-85% of ppl in those gerorgian areas + both abhazian and south ossetia were soviet socialist autonomous regions in CCCP which gives them right 2 break away from georgia much like kosovo did from serbia.

-and last but not least stop patronizing russia, think about how ur country and every east european country was fucked up during the last decade of the last century.

1. Khodorkovsky...well...he is in prison because he wanted to become politician and he didnt agree and criticed Putin
2. also we can add Kasparov as a person fighting for speach freedom
3. i didnt tell that it aws good move of Georgia (attack Ossetians)...but Russia shouldnt move with tanks ti Georgia...they forgot that they arent Soviet Union...and they cant use army in all democratic countries near their teritory like in Hungary '56/Czechoslovakia '68 ...they should try to solve problem in diplomatic way...
4. my country in last years is fucked because in 80' and 1981-83 we had some...situations, where our economy was 'crushed'...
 
i saw how many new rich russians behave in the foreign countries.
Ridiculous, disrespectful and liek a joke.

english, german and american visitors maybe arent loved in foreign countries, but compared to those newish rich russians, they are angels.

EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING. I had to work for the 'new rich' Russians all summer. The girls were stupid, ugly and snobby, the men were destructive, violent (such as walking around punching holes in walls and picking fights for no reason) and genuinely dumb. :angry:
 
1. Khodorkovsky...well...he is in prison because he wanted to become politician and he didnt agree and criticed Putin
2. also we can add Kasparov as a person fighting for speach freedom
3. i didnt tell that it aws good move of Georgia (attack Ossetians)...but Russia shouldnt move with tanks ti Georgia...they forgot that they arent Soviet Union...and they cant use army in all democratic countries near their teritory like in Hungary '56/Czechoslovakia '68 ...they should try to solve problem in diplomatic way...
4. my country in last years is fucked because in 80' and 1981-83 we had some...situations, where our economy was 'crushed'...

:lol: ur funny
 
and how the ridiculously rich americans , germans and english behave? even worse. Idiocy doesnt have a nationality
Not idioticy, but behaviour.

Sure, in every nation you've dumb, smart, chilled, aggressiv, loud, disciplined people, but nevertheless some nations have their typically behaviour.
I'm not here to judge the nations, becuase i know that every nation have positive and negative aspects.

But what i experienced with such new rich russians were over the top. I can sign most things smantie listed.
 
Finland is the only democratic country to have ever gone to war on another democratic country.

pld:lol:

Beware tit, or we'll declare war on Norway:D Shame we have such a short common border, will get crowded...

Actually after Winter War Finland surrendered some territory (Karelia and some up north) to the SU, won that back during the Continuation War and then had to retreat again. So the borderline remained about the same as after the Winter War in the end. The continuation war ran quite smoothly for as long as the Germans kept advancing on the Eastern front. At some point the good 'ol boy from Austria asked Finland to assist in the siege of Leningrad but Mannerheim didn't buy it. Eventually Mannerheim had to step down and a separate peace treaty was negotiated with the Soviets some time before Germany surrendered. Implied huge economical 'donations of good will' so to say to USSR, ships, trains, machinery.. you name it. Nevertheless, the result of zero Soviet troops in Finland was quite OK:)
 
Not idioticy, but behaviour.

Sure, in every nation you've dumb, smart, chilled, aggressiv, loud, disciplined people, but nevertheless some nations have their typically behaviour.
I'm not here to judge the nations, becuase i know that every nation have positive and negative aspects.

But what i experienced with such new rich russians were over the top. I can sign most things smantie listed.

:whatever: americans rich or poor and most western europeans r way more dumber and more annoying then any russian, i ll rather be stuck with dumb annoying russians then an "intelligent" american (or western european)
 
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