Public Servers

[Geo]

Well ive noticed recently that half the players think dfp isnt the greatest (prob most of uk) and the other half think dog aint great (germany , some nl) in my recent experience dfp is spiking and making it unplayable for me and dog has a warpy feel to it , is there any public server out there that doesnt play bad , def need somewhere balanced for all too play id say publics is terrible these days.
(not meaning anything offensive dfp and dog ,greatfull for the free servers but there just typa not playable at moment compared too what they used to be)

 

[Carnage`]

problem is the routing in general atm unfortunatly not so much the servers or their hosts i think. Therefor i think every server will have some issues till that get's sorted

 

[Geo]

really needs sorted lol

 

[Bart]

actually there are pelnty of good public servers outthere. unfortunally none is an AS-server .
DFP is clearly for me the best. Neither DoG nor any other public server could mess with DFP when you're from Germany or some parts of NL).
Well i've the feeling (since about 1-2 years) that almost all AS server are more laggier than servers on any other UT-gametype.

Maybe we could do a lil test. Load a map (i.e. Ballistic) with LAS and check ping/spikes/memory usage.
After that load the same map, but this time without LAS. Then you can see if LAS (+Smileys, Cheatprotection, etc) makes it unsmoother (although i doubt it).
Some peeps keep blaming LAS for those bad server connections.

 

[Geo]

How longs this prob with routing been on go rookie ?

 

[Geo]

actually there are pelnty of good public servers outthere. unfortunally none is an AS-server .
DFP is clearly for me the best. Neither DoG nor any other public server could mess with DFP when you're from Germany or some parts of NL).
Well i've the feeling (since about 1-2 years) that almost all AS server are more laggier than servers on any other UT-gametype.

Maybe we could do a lil test. Load a map (i.e. Ballistic) with LAS and check ping/spikes/memory usage.
After that load the same map, but this time without LAS. Then you can see if LAS (+Smileys, Cheatprotection, etc) makes it unsmoother (although i doubt it).
Some peeps keep blaming LAS for those bad server connections.

Yeah all other mods are smooth for me indeed and AS typa is the opposite compared to few yr back but you touching on a bad subject with LAS u pornstar i think this convo been around b4 rofl

allthough i wouldnt disagree with the folk that think that rofl

 

[Op1uM]

ULL public server is nice (2v2 and 6v6)
dog std is the best for me , i get twice bigger ping on dog custom & dfp

 

[Geo]

I find that on dog std and custom the ping is erratic jumping from avg 50 - 90 then back to 50 then 3 then 0 then 50 and it feels warpy if you know what i mean and dfp- just spikes upto 160 170 from my usuall 80-90 all f1 (i know f6 is correct but after these yrs can tell with f1)

Yet when im on ctf servs stable and fine same with dm or any other mod just would be nice to have the same stability with AS

 

[MeetYourMaker]

AS never had priority so was put on the crappiest servers, however theres a lot of international routing probs recently. Some servers are fine but simply put theres not enough interest in AS public servers to warrant giving people the option of different providers/countries. There are numerous threads on forums about people making public servers and they just remain empty for a few months until the owner realises its a waste of money and removes it, people can be unhappy about the lack of choice but its mainly their fault in being so picky or stubborn to change.

 

[Geo]

AS never had priority so was put on the crappiest servers, however theres a lot of international routing probs recently. Some servers are fine but simply put theres not enough interest in AS public servers to warrant giving people the option of different providers/countries. There are numerous threads on forums about people making public servers and they just remain empty for a few months until the owner realises its a waste of money and removes it, people can be unhappy about the lack of choice but its mainly their fault in being so picky or stubborn to change.

Yeah agreed with that , the community does complain about the public servers but remain playing there and wont change and try another public server which in turn makes all play there as its only place that folk play (dfp dog)

 

[Kippenijzer]

Routing got more fucked by the day throughout the entire last year I fear. I have had numerous support tickets at several different routing parties in the last year for routes that became worse since start of the year, most were either "not reproducable" or "we corrected the problem" without anything effectively getting better. The "bomb" was of course the "little dispute" between Cogent and Level3, 2 of the worlds Tier1 carriers, responsible for over 60% of the "decent" routing in EU. Their dispute got resolved (somewhat), but the routing that got fucked up never returned to the state it was in before that time. Effectively routing in 2005 went bad, and I fear it might take a while before it will get better. To bad I don't have the capacity, nor the power to invest enough to become my own "routing entity" on the net. I'ld love to make my own routing deals with certain parties, ut without having multimultimulti Mbit's of traffic, you simply can't (without actually having to pay a lot of money for the connections that is, with enough money you can get everything done). Next year I *hope* to grow to some decent size with indeed a reasonable amount of mbit's, and will then indeed try to get the stuff described above arranged in 2007, routing on the net has to finally become decent again, or better yet, supercede the old (ie, 2004) "quality".

 

[Geo]

Routing got more fucked by the day throughout the entire last year I fear. I have had numerous support tickets at several different routing parties in the last year for routes that became worse since start of the year, most were either "not reproducable" or "we corrected the problem" without anything effectively getting better. The "bomb" was of course the "little dispute" between Cogent and Level3, 2 of the worlds Tier1 carriers, responsible for over 60% of the "decent" routing in EU. Their dispute got resolved (somewhat), but the routing that got fucked up never returned to the state it was in before that time. Effectively routing in 2005 went bad, and I fear it might take a while before it will get better. To bad I don't have the capacity, nor the power to invest enough to become my own "routing entity" on the net. I'ld love to make my own routing deals with certain parties, ut without having multimultimulti Mbit's of traffic, you simply can't (without actually having to pay a lot of money for the connections that is, with enough money you can get everything done). Next year I *hope* to grow to some decent size with indeed a reasonable amount of mbit's, and will then indeed try to get the stuff described above arranged in 2007, routing on the net has to finally become decent again, or better yet, supercede the old (ie, 2004) "quality".

Hope things work out nicely for yah this year coming

 

[Geo]

The community in all countries could for example play at nights on (example) utaserver2(nl) if at all possible , should be more stable and balanced and give both sides more fun games and bring back the fun instead of most playing a map or 2 and saying this is unplayable and then rejoin few hrs later too say the same

Or if that server is bizzy then find another thats as good and stable for publics

 

[Kippenijzer]

@Tzu: Any reason why #2 in particular?

 

[AnTi]

Since i changed provider, Gothica servers are one of the best ones.
Still lowest ping on DFP

 

[Player-63]

ull servers have a nice low stable ping and tick rates run at about 35 - 40

also damo installed zp on servers aswell think he got some good feedback on it seemed to work well with LAS 140
little note if you join the server in zp left click uses zeroping setting and right click uses normal UT settings to fire

 

[Geo]

@Tzu: Any reason why #2 in particular?

Well had a funmatch on it few times and had folk from germany nl and uk and all enjoyed in ping seemed stable and was evenly balanced funmatches tbh , no complaints from anybody

And i reckon for balanced matches it really has to be an nl server as if uk then the germans lose out abit and if german server the uk lose out abit but if nl then its closer to an even balance.

 

[Paa`]

Were forever having problems finding a good server for tdm match's in oG because we have people from all over europe.

This one server plays and pings great for everyone see what it pings like (from windows) for others.

213.148.132.43

I have this..

Target Name: gs43.speicherland.com
IP: 213.148.132.43
Date/Time: 31/12/2005 02:35:22

1 0 ms [192.168.0.1]
2 7 ms [212.104.130.198]
3 9 ms [81.5.191.217]
4 26 ms core1.dus.qsc.DE [195.66.224.74]
5 28 ms core2.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.125]
6 28 ms gw-hosting.fra.qsc.de [213.148.128.246]
7 30 ms gs43.speicherland.com [213.148.132.43]

Thats amazing for a uk to de server.

There UT servers play smooth aswell (for now)

 

[Paa`]

Trace to gothica atm

Target Name: N/A
IP: 217.148.191.120
Date/Time: 31/12/2005 02:40:54

1 0 ms [192.168.0.1]
2 10 ms [212.104.130.198]
3 10 ms [81.5.191.217]
4 42 ms lipex-ge.e300-1.trueserver.co.uk [193.109.219.95]
5 33 ms 10ge-6-0.e600-1.ams5.true.nl [87.233.192.1]
6 42 ms 10ge-6-1.e600-2.ams1.true.nl [87.233.192.10]
7 30 ms wedare-gw.trueserver.nl [213.193.235.142]
8 32 ms ge-1-1-1.cr1.rtd.we-dare.net [84.244.177.1]
9 32 ms [217.148.191.120]


Still pretty good

 

[Geo]

i was mentioning server2 earlier and recently found out im spiking abit there also 1-17 hops all are from 25ms-45ms cept hop 16 (ge-1-1-1.cr1.rtd.we-dare.net which is 111ms 139ms 39ms) i take it thats why i get the spikes on serv2 now lol ? and i also noticed when doing a tracert to dfp its the hop 18 and 19 that goes 118ms on the 18th and 179 on the 19th hop which are both tescali ips

And my tracert to dog shows nothing noticable seems stable and highest it goes is 50ms on any hop but when in server my ping is always rising lowering and play feels unstable somehow