Map Suggestion Thread

[Crazy Squirrel]

New Month, new thread to start from fresh. I've made a list of all the maps proposed and comments given by various people. If I missed u out or misquoted u etc i'm sorry (took long enough to get it in this state ) just correct it by posting in this thread.

Suggest/give comments for any maps u want (don't, i repeat don't comment on every map!! - if its got a load of bad comments it wont need any more). Keep the discussion light like the last thread and on topic - anything off topic is subject to deletion - If u want maps altered the place to ask is the map forum.

Aiming for 5 months to clanrep vote on during May (as we did this month) - we'll try and listen more to the voices of the clan reps on suggestions, but everyone can put a comment down if they wish.


This is the format I've laid everything out as:

Map Name proposed by Proposer
Commenter: "Good Comment" (date)
Commenter: "On the fence Comment" (date)
Commenter: "Bad Comment" (date)
Commenter: "Other Comment" (date)
League Opinion: Stuff we've agreed upon about the map
Map Vote History: (as below)

Map Vote History is like this:
Month of potential Entry: A/B/C->D/E/F
A=Votes the map got at round 1, B=Total Votes at Round 1, C=Approx number of clans eligable
D=Votes the map got at round 2, E=Total Votes at Round 2, F=Approx number of clans eligable
X means it didn't make it to the round or was not entered.

Enjoy!

 

[Crazy Squirrel]

AS-Arivalv2 proposed by SUYM Crazy Squirrel
SUYM Suicidal: "I would like to see AS-ArrivalV2 considered" (apr)
SUYM Crazy Squirrel: "Personally I like it, the start might be too spammy perhaps?" (Apr)
FDC Wintermute: "that spam choke at the start will be tedious as *fuck* to attack. | some nice launch potential.." (Apr)
MoUtH4WaR: "If you have any suggestions to make the beginning less "spammy" or anything else that would make the map better just let me know. I'm laid-off right now so I got plenty of time on my hands. Just don't ask me to make it look nice, cuz that'll never happen" (Apr)
Map Vote History: May:3/24/53->X

AS-Baseriot proposed by R-C Beltroniko

AS-BioAssault proposed by SEK Dr0oZ
ION Neo: "BioAssault would need to have one or all of those fkin cannons taken out, complete gheyness. Also the last obj should have loads more heath. Other than that I like it, has some nice large open areas for DM Spam in the sniper tunnel bits might be abit much but all those sniper rifles that you get will help u" (Apr)
C0 Propain: "can be a kick ass map if modified a bit, too many autocannons there, remove em or put 6 shieldbelts there" (Apr)
UKS Cash: "aye bio is fine bridge at the beginning is v/nice, bit the tunnel after the bridge has some strange spawn/breach bugs i suppose dunno if it has 2 different breachpoints well id set one breachjpoint to entrance of the tunnel which instantly gives new spawn as it is a Guardia-like way up to there And the cannons , well you might aswell throw out one of the mortarts after the tunnel." (apr)
Bo theProphet: "BioAssault is in my opinion a shitty map, way too big, tons of spam points" (Apr)
Map Vote History: May:9/24/53->11/25/58->X

AS-Biux proposed by BaTRaT
BatRat: "The end objective is unusual, I'll say that for it, other than that - just yuck." (Mar)

AS-Canyon proposed by BaTRaT
BatRat: "That map has multiple attack paths, nice weapons loadout. If there is anything I'd complain about it's the long run at the beginning." (Mar)

AS-Colossus proposed by SEK Drooz / SUYM Ajax / Bo thePhrophet
SUYM Ajax: "AS-Colossus is a nice map but the end needs reworking where you come down the lift shaft" (Mar)
BO thePROPHET: "Uhm.. the defending part is really really fucked, dunno where to go, it´s a total mess, it´s the worst map for defending!" (Mar)
SUYM Suicidal: "no way suitable for the league | There are too many auto cannons in Colossus" (Apr)
SaW Butterfinger: "sucks rocks , and lives... it's spam central... for that, its good in that you can't cheat to the end to finish without getting all the goals. Otherwise, Colossus is Guardia, only with a 8MB map" (Apr)
Map Vote History: May:2/24/53->X

AS-FactoryUprising proposed by BO thePROPHET
BO thePROPHET: "A bit buggy... BUUUT, for the spam addicts " (Mar)

AS-GekokoujouAL proposed by SEK Dr0oZ
SEK Dr0oZ: "maybe make a 2nd AL version, with a switch inside the main building that opens up the door at the top"
League's Comments: Current Version Undefendable

AS-GrandCanyon proposed by some stupid fool
SUYM Suicidal: "we would soon find launches and short cuts that will make the map alot smaller" (Apr)
NRG/Mr Bluey: "can kiss the baby fs hate it (apr)
SaW Butterfinger: "marathon map[color]" (Apr)
League's Comments: 35mins each side, too big.

AS-Guardia2 proposed by pi8 gravedigger
pi8 gravedigger: "this map is great and peeps actually win it" (Apr)

AAS-HeavyWaterFactory proposed by BO thePROPHET
BO thePROPHET: "It´s a real good map, good attack ways and good defense points (tho, in the end u can rush it, but in the beginning, good defense points). .. and it have a great tune afaik it´s used in the WAR League?" (Mar)
League's Comments: Some bugs

AS-LaserV2 proposed by BO Towanda
Download Link
BO theProhphet: "This Map is a , because, it´s like GrandCanyon Style = Long Map Time, Longer Run Time, Longest Map ever..." (Apr)
FDC jwer_NL: "plyd farewell to laser (aka laserV2) and sux balls" (Apr)
SaW Butterfinger: "marathon map" (Apr)

AS-Maticore proposed by SEK Dr0oZ

AS-OperationcertainDeath proposed by FDC 007
FDC 007: "pretty map .. never played it on public thouhg .. might be worth a look" (Mar)

AS-Overlord2 proposed by ADC Zombie
ADC Zombie: "good map" (Apr)
ADC Lawless: "hm, no" (Apr)

AS-Progress proposed by BaTRaT
BatRat: "Take a look at AS-Progress as well. I like it, but there are probably conditions that need to be met to be a League map, I'm not sure what those are." (Mar)

AS-Prototype proposed by RG CrazySue
RG CrazySue: "quite fun to play" (Apr)

AS-Scarab beta proposed by BO Towanda
Download Link
BO theProhphet: "Yup, this would be prolly a when it gets released" (Apr)
League's Comments: Beta Map

AS-RocketCommand proposed by NRG/Mr Bluey
NRG/Mr Bluey: "a nice map not played it fully tho with league players i had it at the lan and it was good but we were pissed and stoned" (Apr)
UKS Iceman: "i would really like to test rocket command with some good players, i think its a great map. really long though, you need about 3 minutes for a solo run without defense" (Apr)
SUYM Crazy Squirrel: "My First thoughts: Way too long, suprised their isn't a printed manual to explain all the objectives. 14mins isn't enough for this map imo, and anything more is a bit too much for this league. Also lots of nasty choke(spam) points." (Apr)

AS-Ruins proposed by SEK Drooz / SUYM Ajax
SUYM Ajax: "a nice map got good a flow to it but not played it online yet so would need testing or something maybe put on a jolt or something and see what ppl think of it" (Mar)
NRG/Mr Bluey: "Ruins is anice map couple of chock points but aint they all" (Apr)
ION Neo: "In ruins you dont have to press the 1st switch u can just run ahead get 2nd then straight to the end room area. If it was to make it into the league a gate should be added so the 1st switch has to be pressed. Its just way too quick otherwise." (apr)
SUYM Suicidal: "no way suitable for the league" (Apr)
Ai Alien: "AS-Ruins doesnt seem too bad, had a quick look at it on a orange server with 4 players... shame I didnt know it when I pld it there first time (after auto-download)" (Mar)
SaW Butterfinger: "Ruins is pretty to look at ... Two switches makes for an interesting attack and defend challenge. The last switch to open the flame gates is a good challenge. The final goal has 4 points of entry, so is TOO EASY to capture. The points within are irrelevant if the final goal is too easy. Interesting story too, but a story in UT AS is like a story in a porn movie " (Apr)
BiB Syphus: "sucks. i think why simple both are spam partys to defense they are gurdias in big arenas" (Apr)
Map Vote History: May:2/24/53->X

AS-Submarinebase2 proposed by NRG/Mr Bluey
NRG/Mr Bluey: "it's quality" (Apr)
SaW Butterfinger: "has multiple routes of attack, but gets a bit confusing inside the building itself. There's roof action, etc, and you can't get INTO the sub unless you get a goal inside the building, so that makes it relative cheat-proof. It's NOT susceptible to launch, a la Frigate, and defenders can enter the sub via spawn very rapidly, so any launch advantage is minor. It's a well-balanced map, tho hard to defend, it's also hard to capture" (Apr)
BiB Syphus: "sucks. i think why simple both are spam partys to defense they are gurdias in big arenas" (Apr)
Map Vote History: May:8/24/53->X

AS-Sabotage proposed by RG CrazySue
RG CrazySue: "quite fun to play" (Apr)

AS-WareHouse proposed by SEK Dr0oZ

AS-Worsethings proposed by Active-X
Active-X: "owns fs!" (Mar)

 

[Se7en]

As i serious suggestion after giving it thought ...

... the most professionally made map on here with most potential is ....

... AS - ROCKETCOMMAND

 

[zombie]

The more people play them the more they want them out!
yes im talking about the old 7 default maps.

A few people over the passed year have mad a few good AL ][ ]I[

so why dont we give them a try in the league?

Rook][
http://downloads1.utassault.net/downloads/Maps/AS-Rook][.zip
Not a lot has changed in this map, no doorway to chains, (so u wont get spammed there)
the long run to the end of the map theres a nice bit of hay to take the bullets for ya
then just keep running to the end

Frigate][
http://downloads1.utassault.net/downloads/Maps/AS-Frigate][.zip
only 1 way out of spawn room and no jumping on to the back of the boat with out taking out the fuckin gun first (this guns an extra man for the def)
no launching cause theres no way in at top.
looks like you will have to fight your way in.

OverLord]I[
http://downloads1.utassault.net/downloads/Maps/AS-Overlord]I[.zip
Starts off same as Overlord, but they have moved the control room,
this map wont get done in 20 sec.
gun caven looks a lot better, more room to move

[Edit: links did not work]

 

[Sauron]

Scarab gives a really nice gameplay, id enjoy to play it on publics and in the league

bioassault also has its moments, tho it can be very spammy
at least it is way better than guardia or lavafort][

rocketcommand is a nice designed map, but just too huge, the suggestion to make 2 parts of it has been made before but i think it is just not a map for the league

submarinebase][ looks very nice, but i think is very spammy coz of its narrow gangways

worsethings looks really leet, i cant say anthing on the gameplay coz i didnt even play it vs bots so far

the rest of the maps listed are imo just crap
some (like biux) are just one room after another without any creative parts

 

[Sauron]

ive downloaded
rook][, frigate][, oceanfloor][, mazon EH][ and overlord]|[

all i can say is : fucking bollox!!!!!
the guy who made them really loves spam and autocannons and narrow gangways etc..
therefore he hates luunching and did everything to make it impossible
in mazon you can find walls above the maingate and in front of the button
in overlord he moved the final room into the lavacave he copied from lavafort][, the distance between the second spawn and the final is twice as long as before, and there is no 3rd spawn
same for rook
if you play these maps you feel happy that the defenders dont
have redeemers


so pls dont even concider to take these map into the elections

 

[ProPain]

can i suggest annihilation
god damn fine map
can be spammy at some points but overall its a kickass map
nice textures
not to big
several kewl launch and hammerjump spots
weapons are quite well spread
kewl teleporters for defense
all in all i would like to play it in the league without problems

 

[thePROPHET!]

Originally posted by 007
As i serious suggestion after giving it thought ...

... the most professionally made map on here with most potential is ....

... AS - ROCKETCOMMAND

Yeah! RocketCommand for the League!

SUYM Crazy Squirrel: "My First thoughts: Way too long, suprised their isn't a printed manual to explain all the objectives. 14mins isn't enough for this map imo, and anything more is a bit too much for this league. Also lots of nasty choke(spam) points." (Apr)

Long Map? No way, with proper attack tactics it´s completed in 4-5 mins (or maybe much less)
About the nasty spam points, they can be fixed in an AL version imo

 

[Konnan]

rocketcommand is 1 of the few maps WITHOUT spam points (maybe only the rocket at the end but also there an average assault player can go through), because the maker ( mier ) thought about multiple routs in the map...
and if u dont know about this because ur too tired to study the map, dont just say its spam only blabla cuz its not true
I studied this map for hours, for sure more then 10 hours and its just the best map assault can give. Its a bit long maybe but thats what assault and all games should be ( look ctf, dm etc etc... all 20 min games ). Although for a league match it would take so much time... too bad that a map like this should loose cuz of that criterium
- There are many routes
- Almost no spam, like i said
- Its a long map so well have action all time and not that we have to wait more in a war then play... a bit what i hate
- It IS a defendable map when tactics are used...because of the great teleporter system Mier set up. And its not a map which is finished in 2 min ALWAYS *cough* riverbed3al . But its more a map like bridge which can be defended
- It gives loads of tricks and launches which are maybe a reason to practice again?...
ah well, ut2k3 is coming, ill point my eyes at that soonish and many other people too

 

[Paa`]

aye top map easily one of the best maps made its like bridge but better spam nah i could modify a little get rid of flak and some other things

flak sucks =/ u just fire and kill someone u dont know no skill should'nt be on many maps.

if i flak someone usually secondary ball at least some skill then unlike guardia which the door gets a beating all though the game.

rocketcommand kicks ass and should be in the league.. it can be done pretty quick maybe the last points people group up but multiple ways no spam kick ass map should be in.

 

[Ajax]

AS-rocket command is a frame rate killer on a low end pc, i for one wouldnt want to play this map jst for that one reason

 

[Suicidal]

People keep saying RocketCommand is too big or it takes 3 mins for a solo run.

Well so does GolgothaAL, and there aren't very many league matches that don't have that map it the maplist.

Golgotha has 15 minutes time to complete it, but very rarely takes longer than 4mins (although I am aware that some people have defended it for the full 15mins)

After people find some launches, themap will soon become alot shorter.

Ajax, some of your favorite maps are high polly maps that kill your fps, RocketCommend would be no worse than bridge or siege. There will be enough launches on this map to keep you going for a year or two

 

[thePROPHET!]

Originally posted by Ajax
AS-rocket command is a frame rate killer on a low end pc, i for one wouldnt want to play this map jst for that one reason

AS-Saqqara(AL) is eating up way more fps than AS-RocketCommand does on my PC... How about Your PC?

 

[syphus]

rocket id nice but saquarra better both eat lot of fps

 

[Ajax]

AS-Saqqara(AL) runs sweet on my pc unlike rocketcomand, you have to remember this is an old map played it to death when it first came out got frame rates of 12 in some places only map currantly in the league that gives me close to this low a fps is seige if i look off the top of the tower (14fps), as for launchs yeah they are a good few (was shown loads by FU back when i was in fjs) and a hiddern keg of health. What iam trying to say is this I know this map and i know it sucks on my pc frame rate wise, if it didnt i would surjest it myself. Oh no lose of frame rate on bridge either Not only that but a good defense imo would hold this map for full amount of time np

 

[syphus]

bah lolol if i look from tha top ofm seige tower i get 5 to 7 fps

 

[Nemesis]

Dont have any real tips 4 maps due to the fact that I have never played these maps with a full server of clan/good players, which is the only way to test a map, Is there some way that on a fixed date/time we could all get togther and play these maps to death (well at least 5/10 times ) so that an informed POV can be made about each map

 

[Crazy Squirrel]

Well if we get about five candidate maps they'll go on the league servers for testing + clan rep voting.

But atm we have maybe one.

 

[Se7en]

Yeh but it appears that Rocket command is the only map on the cards at the moment

 

[thePROPHET!]

Yay, put it in, no discussion