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Old 31-05-2005
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Exclamation [IMPORTANT] EAC Cup Draw

Some of you will be wondering why the group tables havent been finalised and its 1 day before the tournament starts , the main reason is because ive sat back and listened to all suggestions to keep it fair yet competitive. After the initial draft some people complained it was too easy for the good teams and that the teams with lesser ability wont stand a chance, some people complained that they've been put in harder groups then others. Some people said that the draw should be random. To combat some of these problems we introduced the 2nd league bracket. This means once the group phase is complete most teams will be able to fight other teams on the same skill level as themselves. The 1st and 2nd of each group play in the winners bracket, the 3rd and 4th of each group play in the 2nd league bracket. Both brackets have a shiny trophy at the end of them and should be considered equal. (heavyweight and lightweight like boxing)

THE FINAL DRAW FOR EAC GROUP PHASE WILL BE DONE LIVE TONIGHT @ 8PM

CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE DRAW

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im working on a php script that will randomly select teams, i will post a url for the draw once ive completed it and you will be able to follow the draw through. I hope to have a test run beforehand to prove that the draw is random, as i know there is a lot of people who are sceptical about these random draws. I cannot guarantee that i will have the script complete as im not a php god so dont be suprised if its not complete, but ill try my best.

Now before you moan about random draws, the draw will be under the following structure (and i will explain why i chose this method to draw at the end):

Seedings:
Top 4 Seeds:
England 1
Germany 1
Netherlands 1
Sweden 1

Next 8 Seeds:
Belgium
Denmark
England 2
France/Poland
Netherlands 2
Netherlands 3
Scotland
Sweden 2

The Rest:
Austria/Switzerland
England 3
Germany 2
Norway/Finland
Portugal/Spain
USA

1. The top 4 seeds will be drawn first and placed into different groups (A,B,C,D)

2. The next 8 seeds will be drawn 1 at a time and placed into a different group each time (A,B,C,D)
if a country has two teams in the same group when this part is done, the team just picked will be put in the next group and the next team to be picked will be placed in the group they just got moved from (hope this makes sense)

3. The rest will be picked and placed into different groups (A,B,C,D)

At the end of the draw teams 1 and 2 from the same country cannot be in the same group, teams 2 and 3 from the same country cannot be in the same group, but teams 1 and 3 from the same country CAN be in the same group.

Explanation for this draw:
The main reason for the seedings is to insure that 2,3 or even 4 highly skilled teams arent placed into the same group, it wont be fair on the other teams in that group as they wont stand a chance. And if they are placed into the same group then 1 or 2 will finish in 3rd or 4th and they will be placed in the second league bracket which again is unfair on all the other teams who get placed in that bracket.

Since the top 2 qualify from each group the "next 8 seeds" all have a good chance of qualifying from the group into the Winners bracket!

and as for "the rest", its was very hard to pick between the next 8 seeds and the rest, most of the teams seem very equal so it shouldnt really make that much of a difference whether your in the "next 8" or "the rest".

I think this method is ok, everyone gets to play in an equally distibuted group, top teams can qualify and play other top teams in the knockouts, and lesser skilled teams go to the 2nd bracket and play teams of equal skill. There is a bit of randomness to keep it fair as well.

Please note, 2 groups will have only 4 teams and 2 groups will have 5 teams. If you are in the group of 5 its not certain that you will make the 2nd league bracket as the bracket can only accomadate 8 teams. Is simply down to the luck of the draw which group you are placed in. Anyway the two 4th placed teams in the groups of 4 will play the two 5th placed teams in the group of 5 for the spot on the 2nd league bracket!

A New Rule:
You can only add to your team if you have played less then 2 EAC matches, you may not add a player to your team after that
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well well seems like it is gonna happend afterall hehe

if some nl team needs me for the odd match in june i'll be around i think.
but im leaving first thing in july so.................u decide
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sounds nice and fair. pld m8
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eum poland/france and belguim COULD be split... then you have a full bracket

they have enough members anyway
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eum poland/france and belguim COULD be split... then you have a full bracket

they have enough members anyway
Poland/France got 4-5 active players, those who has no access to priv forums (see main thread) won`t play in the cup
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ill delay it by 30 minutes just found a prob!

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Draw was completed a little while ago, looks interesting

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looks like a good draw shame nl1 and 3 ended up together

oh and btw if any1 questions the randomness of the draw feel free to ask a php expert about it! files are below!
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the drawing was maybe the most exciting moment in my life.

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I think its a bit unfair to put nl1 and nl3 in the same group.
Same as in the champions league at the groups stages, where 2 teams from the same country cant be in 1 group (ie Internationale, AC Milan and Juventus in 3 different groups). That sounds much fairer to me.
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breen has a point, on the other hand those encounters will be played on a dutch server, good for all
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