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[BRaiNRaiN]

Ok This is going too far...
read this please and please judge about who's most unfair:

TuT (3:20 PM) :
sup ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:21 PM) :
hmm i wanted to ask why you dont let us get our maps sorted, i've been in (- for 2 years now and i've never seen this happen
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:23 PM) :
they were sorted before we changed dates, but we let YOU change dates.. and now u refuse to help us.. Are you just playing to win or what?
TuT (3:24 PM) :
Well, we got your request 12 hours before match which isn´t enough for us to practise 7 new maps on.
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:25 PM) :
you could have practiced them before we changed dates..
TuT (3:25 PM) :
MyM said he messaged Nille and Kelvin saturday but they haven´t been online this weekend sadly
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:25 PM) :
so u lot are just playing to win?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:25 PM) :
yeah so why cant u help us then?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:26 PM) :
we've been trying to reach u, not our fault u lot arent online is it?
TuT (3:26 PM) :
nope, we play fair and now the conditions are fair due to you forcing us to play on uk-server with horrible pings
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:26 PM) :
uhmm as you look on schedules, there were no other servers left
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:26 PM) :
this was ur only choice, u wanted to change dates.. not we
TuT (3:26 PM) :
And don´t say that the other servers were fully booked cause at the time we wanted reschedule there were times left
TuT (3:27 PM) :
No, MyM said 28th is the only date for you
TuT (3:27 PM) :
So we accepted this date of course cause we had to change
TuT (3:28 PM) :
And there are lots of servers we coulda asked for, like nfw, uas etc...
But MyM said, we only change to 28th if we play on 8 or server 3
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:28 PM) :
oh btw my ping on utaserver3 aint good either, so dont come up with the BS story that we're all low-pibngers on server3
TuT (3:28 PM) :
heh, yours is like 70 or wot ?
TuT (3:29 PM) :
We will have like 80 average
TuT (3:29 PM) :
tops
TuT (3:29 PM) :
F1
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:29 PM) :
hmm i'll get an avg of 90
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:29 PM) :
f1 yes
TuT (3:30 PM) :
i will have quite ok i think, but we have 2 players that normally have pl and shit as well =/
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:31 PM) :
but as i said, mym has been trying to reach you during the weekend so u'd have more than enough time to practice maps... but no one of you were online. So you cant say we were too late with asking u people. U'd have more than enough time to practice the maps. Really I think this is one of the most lamest things in (-'s history i've seen... Even the UT_Lords would do us that favour
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:32 PM) :
if i'd ask in forums what they should do i think more than 90% of the people would help us...
TuT (3:32 PM) :
Let me ask you something
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:32 PM) :
tell me..
TuT (3:33 PM) :
If your clan was forced to play on a server they ping shite on just cause they asked for a reschedule 3 weeks before the match. What would be your thought ?
TuT (3:34 PM) :
And don´t tell me it wouldn´t affect you a bit
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:34 PM) :
uhmmm I think that was our problem, coz we didnt have any players
TuT (3:35 PM) :
You wouldn´t think that the other clan was unfair for not using a server with even pings instead ?
TuT (3:35 PM) :
When there obviously are and were servers available
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:36 PM) :
hmmm it would still be your problem, coz u cant play on that date coz u dont have any players no matter what they say
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:37 PM) :
and to get us back with refusing to let us change maps while we've been trying trying to reach u before the weekend is very very very low imho
TuT (3:37 PM) :
Yeah but don´t you think it´s unfair ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:37 PM) :
of course it is a bit unfair, but that isnt our problem is it?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:37 PM) :
we've got a busy schedule coz we play ictf and ias as well
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:38 PM) :
[15:36:23] <MyM> I told kelvin when we were originally scheduling that we can only play monday/sunday. only day free was monday 28th.
[15:37:31] <MyM> due to late scheduling I told kelvin that if we play that date we can only play server3 or our server (having looked at the server schedule I saw that there were no free slots, therefore as they dont have a server and server3 was only league server 3 they dont have a choice)
[15:37:44] <MyM> they wanted to play at 22GMT!
[15:38:14] <MyM> Kelvin tried our server and didnt like it so agreed on servrer3
TuT (3:40 PM) :
We never had any other option than those servers. And both are shite for us so he had to agree. Else you wouldn´t have rescheduled
TuT (3:40 PM) :
Why didn´t MyM came to some1 else when Nille and Kelvin wasn´t online ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:41 PM) :
maybe coz they're the two people that are running swap according to league site
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:41 PM) :
Kelvin (Squad Match Arranger)
Nille (Clan Leader) (Squad Leader)

TuT (3:41 PM) :
Yeah they are, but if i was searching for an answer and i have to do it quick i would first go to the leaders as MyM did and then if they don´t answer cause they might have a real life to take care of i would ask some1 else in the clan
TuT (3:42 PM) :
I mean. it doesn´t cost anything to ask. Just a bit of time
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:42 PM) :
why'd we have to do it quick? we cant know u practice a week before match (which i actually doesnt even believe)
TuT (3:43 PM) :
We don´t. we practise when every1 have time to

 

[BRaiNRaiN]

(-BRaiNRaiN (3:43 PM) :
so y dont u practice tonight before match then?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:43 PM) :
it's only 3 or 4 maps different
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:43 PM) :
it's a matter of 45 mins.
TuT (3:43 PM) :
Cause every1 is working and don´t have time. I already asked =/
TuT (3:44 PM) :
It´s easy for me who sits a lot online. But not for every1 else
TuT (3:44 PM) :
you know how it is i guess
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:44 PM) :
come on.. i'm sure we can come to an agreement
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:44 PM) :
if people are not online much, why doesnt anyone else take over the job then?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:45 PM) :
what do Nille and Kelvin say about tonight btw, are they online?
TuT (3:46 PM) :
We could have if we woulda got that message saturday. You could ask any1 that knows me well. Like Skull said once. "TuT is the most fair player i know".
Always even teams. Played a lot of matches 2vs2 cause other teams only had 2 players in insta for example and stuff.
TuT (3:46 PM) :
And i asked ppl about tonight
TuT (3:46 PM) :
ppl don´t have time, cause they work. I don´t work atm. I would have time and if we had time it coulda been solved
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:46 PM) :
if ur so nice let us play our maps then
TuT (3:47 PM) :
I´m not running swap. And why are we gonna put ourselves in the shit just because we ain´t got time to prac
TuT (3:48 PM) :
And as you said.
TuT (3:48 PM) :
It´s our own fault
TuT (3:48 PM) :
It´s the same for you init ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:48 PM) :
no lol.. of course not as we've been trying to reach u during the weekend
TuT (3:48 PM) :
...
TuT (3:49 PM) :
How could we know when Nille has a newly born child to take care of and Kelvin wasn´t online for some reasno
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:50 PM) :
u coudlnt, but to apologise and make things fairer for this match, would be the least u can do
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:50 PM) :
Oh btw u think it'll be a fun match tonight when we're twice playing the same maps?
TuT (3:50 PM) :
Isn´t it fair enough that you have awesome pings and we got maps ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:51 PM) :
awesome pings? come on, we've people from portugal (2) and myself with a 90 ping and u think we've great pings?
TuT (3:51 PM) :
Don´t you think ping-advantage is worth a lot ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:51 PM) :
2 people with 90 pings prolly (me and Vulc)
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:51 PM) :
and belt and Joca will prolly have worse
TuT (3:51 PM) :
We have 6 with it...
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:52 PM) :
the only 2 people wwith good pings are MyM and Vulc
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:52 PM) :
MyM and Xb i mean
TuT (3:52 PM) :
xb
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:52 PM) :
who's playing for you tonight?
TuT (3:53 PM) :
We usually play all 12 players just to let every1 play
TuT (3:53 PM) :
Prolly some1 can´t make it though so about 10 players maybe
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:53 PM) :
what'll be ur main team for tonight?
TuT (3:54 PM) :
Depends on who comes home from work early, lol. I´m serious
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:54 PM) :
oh and why could u know that u didnt have enough people online for last match?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:54 PM) :
for the time we've rescheduled
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:55 PM) :
WE have rescheduled for YOU
TuT (3:55 PM) :
Cause ppl had other stuff to do. trips etc...
TuT (3:55 PM) :
Cause i ask every1
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:55 PM) :
and u didnt ask for tonight?
TuT (3:55 PM) :
of course i did. But starting-lineup is different due to some1 might be late from work etc...
TuT (3:56 PM) :
ffs, dont you have a real life yourself and know how it works ?
TuT (3:56 PM) :
You think i´m lying and talking bullshit here or wot ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:56 PM) :
oh btw Psy told MyM that this is for the 2nd time since he been in the league that someone does this to another clan. That clan was ULL, u want to put urself in the line besides ULL? nice company dont u think?
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:57 PM) :
of the entire league, IAS, Pro, and STD
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:57 PM) :
i dont think ur telling me bullshit but i do think that ur quite unfair atm
TuT (3:58 PM) :
Well, Psy don´t have all the facts and since Psy hates me and i hate him i don´t care what he puts his nose in. He does everything to piss me off and ppl who knows him well does know how false he is. Why do you think all old ppl created a new clan to get rid of him ?

 

[BRaiNRaiN]

TuT (3:58 PM) :
*old ppl from AKA that is
(-BRaiNRaiN (3:59 PM) :
but u think he's telling lies then?
TuT (3:59 PM) :
Not to you no
TuT (3:59 PM) :
So that might be right yes, but he still don´t have all the facts does he ?
TuT (4:00 PM) :
he got 2 facts:
1. You rescheduled for us to be nice
2. Swap is lame for not letting us set maps
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:00 PM) :
you want to get urself in the line besides TRU, UT_Lords(2), X-MEN etc
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:00 PM) :
?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:01 PM) :
what are the other facts then?
TuT (4:01 PM) :
He doesn´t have the 3rd fact which is:
3. 8 forcing us to play on a server with uneven pings even though we could have got any other server
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:01 PM) :
[15:36:23] <MyM> I told kelvin when we were originally scheduling that we can only play monday/sunday. only day free was monday 28th.
[15:37:31] <MyM> due to late scheduling I told kelvin that if we play that date we can only play server3 or our server (having looked at the server schedule I saw that there were no free slots, therefore as they dont have a server and server3 was only league server 3 they dont have a choice)
TuT (4:01 PM) :
And the 4th fact which is:
4. Swap got 8´s message 12-16 hurs before match. Even though 8 tried earlier.
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:01 PM) :
again..
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:02 PM) :
even though 8 tried earlier, that's exactly what i mean
TuT (4:02 PM) :
Why not play nfw, uas or some then ?
TuT (4:03 PM) :
MyM: We can only play the 28th and that´s if we use 8-server or server 3 = no other servers accepted
TuT (4:03 PM) :
Don´t you get it ?
TuT (4:03 PM) :
He never wrote the "no other accepted"
But that´s how it looks like ain´t it ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:03 PM) :
[16:03:17] <BReeNReeN> u've been speakingwith nille about other servers, like uas and nfw?
[16:03:43] <MyM> nille never answered on that
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:04 PM) :
[16:03:54] <MyM> only kelvin did when he said no, its too late
TuT (4:04 PM) :
to late ? to late for wot ?
TuT (4:04 PM) :
Arranging server ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:04 PM) :
guess so, just getting this from MyM
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:05 PM) :
[16:04:18] <MyM> looking through logs they suggested nfw but they never said that they had a problem with server3
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:05 PM) :
so if u didnt say that u'd any problems with server 3, what's the fucking problem to come up with it afterwards?
TuT (4:05 PM) :
hmm, well i clearly told Kelvin we have an unfair ping on server 3 and 8-server so i can arrange nfw
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:05 PM) :
now u say MyM forced u to play on server3
TuT (4:05 PM) :
I guess he copied that line and sent mym, not sure
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:06 PM) :
ok so i guess we're talking about a miscommunication right?
TuT (4:06 PM) :
Might be, not sure really
TuT (4:06 PM) :
But still MyM never said that any other server was ok
TuT (4:06 PM) :
He only said 8 and server 3 is ok
TuT (4:06 PM) :
And only on that date
TuT (4:07 PM) :
and no other time than 8pm right ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:07 PM) :
are u just exploiting the rules now or what? u wont budge even what it'll cost do u?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:07 PM) :
lol most of our players are dutch which will be till 23.00 (CET)
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:08 PM) :
and we got to work tomorrow
TuT (4:08 PM) :
same time for me
TuT (4:08 PM) :
Not exploiting the rules btw
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:08 PM) :
even it could take longer.. like moer as matches.. which take over 2.30 hours
TuT (4:08 PM) :
And you know that
TuT (4:09 PM) :
You woulda done the same due to fact if you played on a high-ping server
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:11 PM) :
we've always been a fair clan to anyone
look at lat mi5 match.. we've been acting like pricks but we've solved the problem, ask AAK which they think the nicest clan is and they'll say (-... we only play for fun lately, hardly using tactics etc. We just want to play fair games and having fun... but if you do things like this to us, i dont see any fun for tonight
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:11 PM) :
as i look now, ur only playing to win.. y else wuoldnt u want to let us change maps?
TuT (4:11 PM) :
you got the facts earlier didn´t you ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:12 PM) :
what do u mean?
TuT (4:12 PM) :
And i we were playing to win i would put the best team in from start
TuT (4:12 PM) :
Which i won´t cause i want every1 to play
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:12 PM) :
why dont you let us change maps then if u play for fun?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:12 PM) :
what's the fucking problem man
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:13 PM) :
i want everyone to play with IAS as well (i'm IAS Squad leader), but that doesnt mean i want to get in a negative point of view from other clans by doing bullshit to them like ur doing to us now
TuT (4:14 PM) :
Obviously you atm.
You would have handled it the same way due to the facts that other team has a ping-advantage but you don´t just agree it cause you´r afraid it would look bad
TuT (4:14 PM) :
So is it me or swap doing this now ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:14 PM) :
i wouldnt fs.. as i said we play for fun. We're not looking for advantage. (Like mi5 match: Else we'd have asked to play on a server that was negative for them)
TuT (4:15 PM) :
You mean the match that was rescheduled after 200 pages of flames ?
TuT (4:15 PM) :
or was it even rescheduled ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:15 PM) :
yes that match, i've apologised coz i was very angry, and i was the one who solved all the fucking problems afterwards
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:16 PM) :
and it is rescheduled
TuT (4:16 PM) :
Well, every1 does bad things sometimes
TuT (4:16 PM) :
It´s just a matter of coming clean with it afterwards
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:16 PM) :
yeah but we mostly set it right before worse things happens
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:17 PM) :
just let us change the maps and this problem is solved as well and we can play a good and fun match tonight..
TuT (4:17 PM) :
Yeah exactly and from our point of view it´s set right now for this match due to the facts we got forced to play on a server with ping-disadvantage
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:18 PM) :
ping disadvantage is bullshit!
TuT (4:18 PM) :
Really i woulda loved to this saturday but now it´s to late
TuT (4:18 PM) :
no it´s not
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:18 PM) :
remember 2 portuguese players with 100+ ping (f1) 2 dutch players with (0 ping
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:18 PM) :
90 ping
TuT (4:18 PM) :
heh, joca and belt ping very good normally
TuT (4:19 PM) :
not like xb and mym
TuT (4:19 PM) :
But like us or better
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:19 PM) :
they do? yeah they do on portuguese servers
TuT (4:19 PM) :
So Belt and Joca plays 2vs2 on portuguese servers ?
TuT (4:19 PM) :
Doubt it
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:20 PM) :
and as i said we've been trying to reach you this weekend but the clanleaders werent online, so what should we have done? asking everyone of swap to come online?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:21 PM) :
they dont play on portuguese servers but they're good enough to beat the other 2v2 teams by doing tricks and stuff instead of going pure hardcore dm-ing
TuT (4:21 PM) :
No, as i said. you couldn´t possibly have known that they were offline. But you could have tried with some1 else at least. isn´t it very logical ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:21 PM) :
who? they'd have prolly said, you should ask clanleaders. i dont know fuck about it!
TuT (4:22 PM) :
Me, Dj, Tiger, Alpha. we are mostly online. And yeah i could have phoned them up and asked
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:22 PM) :
6:17:30] <MyM> ive not had one person ive told agree with what swap have done
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:22 PM) :
says enough imho
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:22 PM) :
who said if they were home?
TuT (4:23 PM) :
?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:23 PM) :
who knows that u've their phone numbers?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:23 PM) :
we dont have each others phone numbers
TuT (4:23 PM) :
...
TuT (4:23 PM) :
Not you of course, but isn´t it worth a try to ask ?
TuT (4:23 PM) :
Does it cost to ask ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:23 PM) :
does it cost u something, not to change maps now?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:23 PM) :
i think it costs u more if u dont
TuT (4:24 PM) :
It costs the whole team getting raped on 7 maps we haven´t practised on for this game
TuT (4:24 PM) :
What would it cost ? Flames on a forum i almost never look in ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:24 PM) :
7 maps, we've 4 maps the same prolly
TuT (4:25 PM) :
And btw, is that a threat ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:25 PM) :
so that'd be 3 maps and u should know all the tricks and stuff by now
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:25 PM) :
what's a treat?
TuT (4:25 PM) :
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:23 PM) :
i think it costs u more if u dont
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:25 PM) :
no lol
TuT (4:26 PM) :
Would you agree to play on uas-server if we get it ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:26 PM) :
what i meant to say is that it'll be 2/3 hours of flaming tonight if u dont let us change maps,
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:26 PM) :
no coz like i said before in this conversation we've never liked uas server, always some mysterious lag
TuT (4:27 PM) :
ohh
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:27 PM) :
we would agree on nfw server tho i think
TuT (4:27 PM) :
and our pl isn´t laggy on server 3 ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:27 PM) :
u didnt complain about server 3 did u?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:27 PM) :
just now when we ask you to let us change maps
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:28 PM) :
and u tell us mym forced u to play ons erver3
TuT (4:28 PM) :
As i said. No idea if Kelvin did but kelvin is the most quiet and kind guy i know so prolly he didn´t
TuT (4:28 PM) :
But i tld him to
TuT (4:28 PM) :
And rest of the clan is pissed off with us playing server 3 tonight
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:28 PM) :
lol i've never seen mym call anyone dickheads with match arranging before either
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:28 PM) :
and i'm in this clan for more than 2 years as well
TuT (4:29 PM) :
I´m sure he´s done that before in silence ^^
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:29 PM) :
i'm sure he didnt
TuT (4:29 PM) :
lol, ok whatever
TuT (4:30 PM) :
i don´t know the guy
TuT (4:30 PM) :
Bet you do
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:30 PM) :
let me ask you this: If we'd play on NFW server tonight, and u let us change maps? would u agree?
TuT (4:30 PM) :
If the rest of the clan agrees
TuT (4:30 PM) :
As i said. I´m not the leader which you already know
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:31 PM) :
oh btw nfw server isnt even a registered server for league yet
TuT (4:31 PM) :
no it´s not but if both clans agree to play on it it´s ok
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:31 PM) :
is ur clan leader online now, or can u call him ?
TuT (4:31 PM) :
i will ask him
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:32 PM) :
would u really do it?
TuT (4:32 PM) :
I am right now
TuT (4:32 PM) :
waiting for answer
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:32 PM) :
k
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:43 PM) :
no one taking up the phone lol?
TuT (4:43 PM) :
I cannot get in touch with Nille but i asked every1 online and no1 agrees
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:43 PM) :
why not?
TuT (4:45 PM) :
Well, they think you were unfair with the server 3-case as well and that we shouldn´t give you 1 more advantage
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:45 PM) :
1 more advasntage?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:45 PM) :
we let you play no a better server!
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:45 PM) :
that's the most fair thing we can do lol
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:45 PM) :
cant get any fairer
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:46 PM) :
oh pls can you quote them exactly.. i want to see if u didnt make this up
TuT (4:46 PM) :
they still don´t agree. I can´t do more than that
TuT (4:46 PM) :
I´m not the leader once again
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:46 PM) :
pls let em quote
TuT (4:47 PM) :
?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:47 PM) :
u've asked them? msn, irc icq?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:47 PM) :
how did u
TuT (4:47 PM) :
ts
TuT (4:47 PM) :
teamspeak
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:47 PM) :
what's ts server, so i can see if they're online?

TuT (4:47 PM) :
LOL, you joking ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:47 PM) :
i'm not
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:48 PM) :
i just dont believe you right now
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:48 PM) :
you can turn off password
TuT (4:48 PM) :
Alpha, Grz, Dj AL
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:48 PM) :
and let me join
TuT (4:48 PM) :
No, cause i´m not admin on that1
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:48 PM) :
who is?
TuT (4:48 PM) :
Ask them in icq
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:48 PM) :
give me their icq numbers lo
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:49 PM) :
l
TuT (4:49 PM) :
ffs, stop it now. Believe me or not. Now you´r being lame
TuT (4:49 PM) :
ok, 1 sec
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:49 PM) :
why?
TuT (4:49 PM) :
Not believing me
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:49 PM) :
i am just trying to find out if everyone is as lame as you are being right now
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:49 PM) :
who is TS admin?
TuT (4:49 PM) :
I get pissed off when i speak the truth and some1 don´t believe it
TuT (4:49 PM) :
that´s just me
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:49 PM) :
telling the truth?
TuT (4:49 PM) :
yes
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:50 PM) :
let me come in with pw? what can i possibly do?
TuT (4:50 PM) :
i asked em.
they said no
TuT (4:50 PM) :
pff
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:50 PM) :
just do it.. i dont see ur problem... i just dont believe u right now
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:50 PM) :
i'm sure u dont want a reputation like ut_lords have atm
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:51 PM) :
what u doing right now?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:51 PM) :
making up other lies?
TuT (4:52 PM) :
lol
TuT (4:52 PM) :
you´r pathetic
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:52 PM) :
come on let me join TS..
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:52 PM) :
i'm not shy to speak to em
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:52 PM) :
and give me their icq numbers as well
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:54 PM) :
hello?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:56 PM) :
ok i'll post our whole conversation on the forums and let other people judge about ur behaviour.. maybe u finally can get in line with UT_Lords and TRU and other lame clans
TuT (4:57 PM) :
^^
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:57 PM) :
file transfer?
TuT (4:57 PM) :
yes
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:57 PM) :
why a file transfer?
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:57 PM) :
what's in it?
TuT (4:57 PM) :
Cause i took a screen-shot of ts
TuT (4:57 PM) :
With all ppls connected
TuT (4:57 PM) :
For proof
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:57 PM) :
lol that doesn mean shit
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:57 PM) :
does it!

TuT (4:57 PM) :
aha, what means shit to you then
TuT (4:58 PM) :
Well, you wanted to know if they are online
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:58 PM) :
no i want their icq numbers
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:58 PM) :
i've asked for that
TuT (4:58 PM) :
fo, first you say 1 thing then another
TuT (4:58 PM) :
Now i got it and you change your mind
(-BRaiNRaiN (4:58 PM) :
just gimme em
TuT (4:58 PM) :
get them from utassault and stop wasting my time fs
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:00 PM) :
lol ok i'll post a thread to let people judge about ur behaviour, if that's the way, you want to have attention, then u can get it

 

[BRaiNRaiN]

TuT (5:00 PM) :
And i care shite about what you post in forums ^^
Never bothered me before and will never bother me.
Besides, those reading it will not have the slightest idea of whatever happened anyway ^^
Cause it´s edited
TuT (5:00 PM) :
I never read forums. I don´t care so go post ^^
TuT (5:00 PM) :
LOL
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:00 PM) :
lol what's edited?
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:01 PM) :
mym will be posting his conversation as well
TuT (5:01 PM) :
Well, the facts that we´ve been talking about all the fucking time. You will only post what´s good for 8 and so...
I know how you guys are
TuT (5:01 PM) :
I DON´T CARE STILL ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TuT (5:01 PM) :
^Go fucking post
TuT (5:01 PM) :
lolol
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:01 PM) :
i've given ur a fair solution didnt i?
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:01 PM) :
i've gave a a fair server!
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:01 PM) :
but u refused
TuT (5:02 PM) :
no, the clan refused
TuT (5:02 PM) :
And i came up with the sollution
TuT (5:02 PM) :
Don´t fucking forget it
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:02 PM) :
where's the proof!
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:02 PM) :
what did u say then?
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:02 PM) :
what was the solution
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:02 PM) :
according to you
TuT (5:03 PM) :
You have sent a message!
Would you agree to play on uas-server if we get it ?
TuT (5:03 PM) :
that´s what i sent to you
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:03 PM) :
or nfw server, remember?
TuT (5:04 PM) :
omg, lol
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:04 PM) :
we agreed on nfw
TuT (5:04 PM) :
nfw and uas are exact copies
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:04 PM) :
so whats the problem then with u
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:04 PM) :
u like both servers
TuT (5:04 PM) :
Clan doesn´t agree
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:04 PM) :
we only like nfw
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:04 PM) :
so nfw , no problem
TuT (5:05 PM) :
You have sent a message!
Clan doesn´t agree
TuT (5:05 PM) :
You have sent a message!
Clan doesn´t agree
TuT (5:05 PM) :
You have sent a message!
Clan doesn´t agree
TuT (5:05 PM) :
You have sent a message!
Clan doesn´t agree
TuT (5:05 PM) :
You have sent a message!
Clan doesn´t agree
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:05 PM) :
if u suggest something and ur clan doesnt supprt it, what's the fucking solution then
TuT (5:05 PM) :
How many you want ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:05 PM) :
lol dont go angry fs
TuT (5:05 PM) :
i don´t
TuT (5:05 PM) :
This is a game ^^
TuT (5:05 PM) :
But you´r acting weird atm
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:05 PM) :
yeah play it fair
if u know the meaning of that word
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:05 PM) :
who is?
TuT (5:05 PM) :
haha
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:06 PM) :
FAIR IS: playing on nfw server (u suggested it) and let us play our maps
TuT (5:06 PM) :
You mean fair in like: "Forcing us to play server 3 and pingrape us" ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:06 PM) :
omg why i am giving u lot another change ?
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:06 PM) :
to MAKE IT FAIRER
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:06 PM) :
ffs
TuT (5:06 PM) :
Ì bet if you would have set your maps you wouldn´t have agreed another server ^^
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:06 PM) :
for both sides
TuT (5:07 PM) :
Yes i tried to
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:07 PM) :
we would
TuT (5:07 PM) :
HAHAHAHA
TuT (5:07 PM) :
LOLOLOL
TuT (5:07 PM) :
BULLSHIT
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:07 PM) :
ask fucking any clan
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:07 PM) :
you're the firs clan that doesnt agree besides ULL
TuT (5:07 PM) :
We did =)
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:07 PM) :
FFS
TuT (5:07 PM) :
we asked clans
TuT (5:08 PM) :
Ppl says 8 and Mi5 are the most unfair clans cause they only wants ping-advantage
TuT (5:08 PM) :
And we only asked cause you started flaming us today, no other reason
TuT (5:09 PM) :
If it´s so lame to reject some1 to edit maplist. Why is it the rule of Utassault btw ? ^^
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:20 PM) :
TuT (5:08 PM) :
Ppl says 8 and Mi5 are the most unfair clans cause they only wants ping-advantage

(-BRaiNRaiN (5:20 PM) :
who said that?
TuT (5:21 PM) :
You sure would like to know that wouldn´t you ? ^^
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:21 PM) :
i do
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:21 PM) :
i'm sure no one would say that
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:21 PM) :
i think ur just making it up
TuT (5:21 PM) :
you´d be sirprised how many
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:21 PM) :
tell me then
TuT (5:21 PM) :
no
TuT (5:21 PM) :
I´m not stupid
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:21 PM) :
lmfao
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:21 PM) :
ur stupid, u;ve just proved it
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:21 PM) :
ur making things up man
TuT (5:22 PM) :
^^
TuT (5:22 PM) :
not really
TuT (5:22 PM) :
Think like you want
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:22 PM) :
ever thought of a psychiator?
TuT (5:22 PM) :
I don´t care still
TuT (5:24 PM) :
Sad to see how you all react over a computer game ^^
+ thinking it´s lame to use the rules of utassault ^^
TuT (5:24 PM) :
Wonder who needs a shrink dude
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:25 PM) :
if u think it's only a comp game, why dont fucking let us change our maps then?
TuT (5:25 PM) :
Anyway, good luck tonight. I´m off now.
Stop wasting my time
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:25 PM) :
u really need to go to a doctor, or dont you dare to go outside and u stick ur nose to ur pc
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:26 PM) :
and acting like your everything
TuT (5:26 PM) :
I´m going outside atm unlike you.
I have a real life you know.
Prolly hard for you to understand since you ain´t got it
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:27 PM) :
lololol yeah ur the one who knows everything about me huh?
(-BRaiNRaiN (5:27 PM) :
Doctor!!!
TuT (5:27 PM) :
^^
TuT (5:27 PM) :
You seem to care lots about my private life do you
TuT (5:27 PM) :
hehe
TuT (5:28 PM) :
sad guy, oh well. Like i said. I have stuff to take care of
TuT (5:28 PM) :
l8er and good luck

 

[sKull]

thats the biggest conversation i ever seen ,dont think me and the wife have spoke that much in 10 years,

cant see wot prb is ,will be a good fair game as it is now ,coz -8- r good at all maps

 

[X-Bomb]

shame really dont think we will do another clan a favour again

what i think SWAP cant accept is that, there was no other server to pick from apart from server 3 or 8 server, they didnt suggest any AFAIK and now they just want to play there maplist over twice. IF i see that they have good pings tonight, then they are just twats.

weve offered to play on NFW server now, so whats the problem i cant see it? why didnt u complain about server 3 before today?

i mean its really becoming summin when a team cant allow another team to pick maps even.

The facts are:
1)WE RESCHEDULED FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY COULDNT GET A TEAM
2)WE EVEN ENTERED MAPS BEFORE THE RESCHEDULE
3)AND NOW THEY WONT ALLOW US TO ENTER MAPS, BECAUSE AFTER THE RESCHEDULE WE HAVENT ENTERED THEM LOOOL.

nice attidude swap keep it up

oh and expect flames tonight if u dont allow us maps, especially if i see ur pings are fine.

 

[MeetYourMaker]

TuT (5:08 PM) :
Ppl says 8 and Mi5 are the most unfair clans cause they only wants ping-advantage

erm every team wants a fair ping (read that to mean as low as possible), but as im match arranger ive always thought I was pretty fair with other clans to come up with a server we both agreed on. Id be interested to see all these match arrangers that think im unreasonable, fs ive even had my own clan have a go at me because ive agreed on servers that give my team a higher ping just because I thought it was fairer.

 

[X-Bomb]

swap 1 thing

if we ping equal or near enuf equal tonight can we play on nfw server with our maps? thats fair come on

 

[sKull]

dont forget to ask us 1st plz

 

[X-Bomb]

lol ok can we borrow it if swap allow this to happen

 

[MrMerc]

Originally posted by sKull
dont forget to ask us 1st plz

Breen came in irc earlier today and asked if they could use server for match

 

[Beltroniko]

TuT thats just f00cking ridiculous about 8 wanting ping advantage, I mean, if they did they would have never recruited me, Joca or Sauron coz all of us lag alot...

Anyway never expected this from SWAP, but I guess some ppl will do everything to win a match.

 

[BRaiNRaiN]

Didnt think this of swap.. i dont get the fucking point.
I gave them a solution by playing on NFW server, which THEY suggested, so that pings would be fairer. But in advantage i wanted them to allow us to change our map list. (just 3 or 4 maps different.).. But TuT said the clan didnt agree. I asked for proof (coz i didnt trust him) but he refused to give me, and he called me pathetic.

I dont fucking get his problem! Who wants to have an advantage here? Who's being pathetic here? Who's being lame here?

TuT pls..
We've been trying to settle this but if you want unfair match tonight, well then you can get it! And trust me, I'll make it an a nightmare for you if I can!

 

[Sonic]

can't be arsed to read that!

 

[Anni]

Originally posted by Sonic
can't be arsed to read that!

 

[Beltroniko]

Swap are crap btw, even TuT who I though it was skilled, is crap awell.

 

[Squirrel]

THIS HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ME

 

[BRaiNRaiN]

lol xb, stop it

 

[TuT]

Originally posted by Beltroniko
Swap are crap btw, even TuT who I though it was skilled, is crap awell.

Wonder what´s so crap with following the utassault rules ?
And funny that admin (Psy) even say TuT/swap are lamers after only hearing 1 side of the story. Same goes for Belt who prolly didn´t even read the discussion here above. He just heard from Psy and whole 8-clan that i was an asshole and so he agreed and helped with the flaming.
I couldn´t care less what you ganged up leather-latinos think about this without hearing both sides of the story, but get all the facts before you just agree to something.

I was actually the only1 trying to have a normal discussion/conversation with you guys on icq the whole day. I got flamed for this and if this is the reason i suck and is lame and everything, you might start thinking about what is actually right or wrong.

gg btw and cyas

 

[Kaspar.Hauser]

i remember some internal discussions about giving advantages aways to ezly: personally i mostly took the point to keep it strictly to the utas rules - cause i think clan organization is part of the game - but i never succeded... some whiners like mym, vulc and breen always want to be generous and fair and mr nice guy and so on...

i remember another match when a clan didnt drop a player when we were short, though we had done so during the match before... and i am sure there might be 1 or 2 more, fortunately a very small minority of lamers.

new suggestion: a 'lame opponents' list in the internal forum, i.e. of clans who received favors and didnt return them... maybe all might agree to never giving them any favor again in a match?

not more than fair i think?