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Server routing problems? look here!

Discussion in 'irc.utassault.net - #utapug (PUG:AS)' started by MeetYourMaker, Jun 4, 2009.

  1. MeetYourMaker

    MeetYourMaker Administrator

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    This thread is for anyone that is having routing problems with the Pug Server, please post a tracert below and I will try to get it looked into, no promises that it'll get sorted but it will be at least looked at.

    If you had 50ms ping to the last Pug server and now get 60ms, thats not a problem, dont bother asking for a better route! :D
     
  2. Thrasher (_!_)

    Thrasher (_!_) =]死か栄光[=

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    Getting ping spikes at ntl.killercreation.co.uk
    Code:
    |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
    |                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    |                                 unknown -    0 |  157 |  157 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    1 |
    |                            10.254.176.1 -    0 |  157 |  157 |    5 |    9 |   40 |    7 |
    |brhm-cam-1b-v122.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  157 |  157 |    6 |   11 |   37 |   11 |
    |brhm-t3core-1b-ge-012-0.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  157 |  157 |    6 |   11 |   37 |   11 |
    |  bir-bb-b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  157 |  157 |    6 |   11 |   38 |   10 |
    |nth-bb-a-so-100-0.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  157 |  157 |    8 |   12 |   46 |   20 |
    |  pop-bb-b-as4-0.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  157 |  157 |   13 |   18 |   47 |   17 |
    | tele-ic-2-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net -    0 |  157 |  157 |   13 |   17 |   48 |   15 |
    |                ntl.killercreation.co.uk -    0 |  156 |  156 |   13 |   24 |  209 |   15 |
    |            server.directclanhosting.com -    0 |  156 |  156 |   14 |   17 |   57 |   14 |
    |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
       WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir  ( [EMAIL="stanimir@cr.nivis.com"]stanimir@cr.nivis.com[/EMAIL] )
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2009
  3. Meteor

    Meteor <b>League A</b><b>dministrator</b>

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    The same.
     

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  4. MeetYourMaker

    MeetYourMaker Administrator

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    Do you get them in game too? because its quite common for icmp priority to be low on routers so itll spike when traced sometimes as its not deemed as important.
     
  5. Thrasher (_!_)

    Thrasher (_!_) =]死か栄光[=

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    Yeah, definitely got spikes in game....but of course can't see where :-/
     
  6. Meteor

    Meteor <b>League A</b><b>dministrator</b>

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    I am now used to the server after a few games. If you like to see the effect of the lag Trasher meant. I have demos ready when I had it ingame. If that has to do anything with the Killercreation I cant say. It is not seen everytime when a tracert is done. (Like out of 5 tries it occurs one time.)
     
  7. Op1uM

    Op1uM Fakenicker!

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    thx u for the server :)

    i feel kinda laggy tho, dunno if i go tru amsterdam to reach the server ???
    proxad is my isp i think, dunno wtf they do :s

    Code:
      1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
      2     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  82.228.44.254
      3    14 ms     6 ms     6 ms  78.254.0.94
      4     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  bob75-1-v900.intf.nra.proxad.net [78.254.255.9]
    
      5    20 ms    12 ms    23 ms  mna75-1-v902.intf.nra.proxad.net [78.254.255.5]
    
      6     *        *        *     Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
      7     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  bzn-crs16-1-be1004.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.
    27.50.173]
      8    13 ms     *        *     londres-6k-1-po101.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.
    27.51.186]
      9    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  amsterdam-6k-1-po100.intf.routers.proxad.net [21
    2.27.56.42]
     10    21 ms    21 ms    22 ms  ams-ix-1.enta.net [195.69.145.82]
     11    22 ms    22 ms    22 ms  te5-2.telehouse-north0.core.enta.net [87.127.246
    .137]
     12    72 ms    50 ms   208 ms  te4-4.telehouse-north.core.enta.net [87.127.246.
    121]
     13    22 ms    23 ms    22 ms  Transit-enta.KillerCreation.co.uk [62.249.255.18
    6]
     14    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms  server.directclanhosting.com [81.19.217.216]
    i do Paris > London in like 10ms and then it gets fooked .. :(
     
  8. MeetYourMaker

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    You are going through Amsterdam, ignore what it says about London.
    Return route goes direct to France from Telehouse, Ill have a word with the host but its unlikely anything will be done about it as its not significantly bad.

    Met, you and Thrash dont enter the network at the same point, which is where you are complaining about ping spikes. Met you have same point as Op1uM, Thrash should be similar to most UK people on cable. Would need to see if anyone else has same problems at these points.
     
  9. Op1uM

    Op1uM Fakenicker!

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    damn that's gay, going to NL to reach london is dumb lol

    here's the one for dog server :

    Code:
      1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
      2     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  82.228.44.254
      3     5 ms     5 ms     5 ms  78.254.0.94
      4     5 ms     5 ms     5 ms  bob75-1-v900.intf.nra.proxad.net [78.254.255.9]
    
      5     5 ms     5 ms     6 ms  mna75-1-v902.intf.nra.proxad.net [78.254.255.5]
    
      6     *        *        5 ms  th2-6k-2-1-po1.intf.nra.proxad.net [78.254.255.1
    ]
      7     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  th2-crs16-1-be1000.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.
    27.57.202]
      8     *        *       26 ms  th2-6k-3-po21.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.58
    .29]
      9     9 ms     6 ms     5 ms  th2-4k-1-po1.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.58.
    98]
     10     6 ms     6 ms     5 ms  ntt.freeix.net [213.228.3.135]
     11     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  xe-6-1-0.r20.parsfr01.fr.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250
    .2.120]
     12    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  p64-3-0-0.r23.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.25
    0.5.17]
     13    37 ms    15 ms   223 ms  po-5.r01.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
    38]
     14    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  lchost.r01.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [83.231.14
    6.182]
     15    13 ms    13 ms     *     213.230.216.2
     16    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  213.230.216.2
     
  10. Solar´

    Solar´ =]死か栄光[=

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    Code:
    Bezig met het traceren van de route naar www.utapug.net [81.19.217.216]
    via maximaal 30 hops:
    
      1   <1 ms   <1 ms   <1 ms  192.168.1.1
      2     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  1.80-178-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [91.178.80.
    1]
      3    11 ms    10 ms    10 ms  140.255-247-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [81.2
    47.255.140]
      4    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  ge1-0.intlmar1.isp.belgacom.be [194.78.0.147]
      5    10 ms    10 ms    11 ms  bru-22-r5-t3-3.car.belbone.be [80.84.20.210]
      6    18 ms    17 ms    17 ms  prs-bgc-r3-t2-1.car.belbone.be [80.84.18.154]
      7    25 ms    25 ms    25 ms  lnd-ix-r3-t3-3.car.belbone.be [80.84.18.111]
      8    26 ms    26 ms    25 ms  linx-gw0.enta.net [195.66.224.151]
      9    36 ms    25 ms    25 ms  te5-1.telehouse-east2.core.enta.net [87.127.236.
    98]
     10    25 ms    25 ms    24 ms  te4-1.telehouse-north.core.enta.net [87.127.236.
    38]
     11    26 ms    26 ms    26 ms  Transit-enta.KillerCreation.co.uk [62.249.255.18
    6]
     12    26 ms    26 ms    26 ms  server.directclanhosting.com [81.19.217.216]
    
    De trace is voltooid.
    From Be :)
     
  11. Meteor

    Meteor <b>League A</b><b>dministrator</b>

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    I am happy. :)
     
  12. Thrasher (_!_)

    Thrasher (_!_) =]死か栄光[=

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    A tracert will only show the connection for that one request. Use WinMTR and let it run for a few minutes to highlight spike hops.
     
  13. Solar´

    Solar´ =]死か栄光[=

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    Here you go, god knows what it all means :P

    Code:
    |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
    
    |                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
    
    |                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    
    |                             192.168.1.1 -    0 |  229 |  229 |    0 |    0 |   16 |    0 |
    
    |    1.166-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be -    0 |  229 |  229 |    0 |    5 |   16 |   16 |
    
    |140.255-247-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be -    1 |  229 |  228 |    0 |   11 |  203 |    0 |
    
    |          ge0-0.intlmar1.isp.belgacom.be -    0 |  229 |  229 |    0 |   16 |  219 |   15 |
    
    |           bru-22-r5-t2-3.car.belbone.be -    0 |  229 |  229 |    0 |    9 |   94 |   16 |
    
    |          prs-bgc-r3-t3-1.car.belbone.be -    0 |  229 |  229 |   15 |   28 |  218 |   31 |
    
    |           lnd-ix-r3-t3-3.car.belbone.be -    0 |  229 |  229 |   15 |   24 |  110 |   31 |
    
    |                       linx-gw0.enta.net -    0 |  228 |  228 |   15 |   26 |  203 |   31 |
    
    |     te5-1.telehouse-east2.core.enta.net -    0 |  228 |  228 |   15 |   28 |  218 |   16 |
    
    |     te4-1.telehouse-north.core.enta.net -    0 |  228 |  228 |   15 |   34 |  219 |   16 |
    
    |       Transit-enta.KillerCreation.co.uk -    0 |  228 |  228 |   15 |   30 |  235 |   31 |
    
    |            server.directclanhosting.com -    0 |  228 |  228 |   15 |   25 |   32 |   31 |
    
    |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
    
       WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir  ( stanimir@cr.nivis.com )
     
  14. Thrasher (_!_)

    Thrasher (_!_) =]死か栄光[=

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    The column marked "Wrst" (Worst) show the highest ping while you were testing.
     
  15. antidote

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    Tracing route to www.utapug.net [81.19.217.216]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 35 ms 99 ms 99 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.1]
    2 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 172.29.252.43
    3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 172.29.48.129
    4 13 ms 14 ms 12 ms gdr10-hdr01.ip.t-com.hr [195.29.241.114]
    5 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms po2-0.core01.vie01.atlas.cogentco.com [149.6.174.29]
    6 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms te1-4.ccr01.vie01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.48.41]
    7 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms te7-7.ccr01.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.49.29]
    8 33 ms 32 ms 33 ms te2-2.mpd03.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.49.153]
    9 32 ms 33 ms 32 ms tiscali.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.86]
    10 53 ms 52 ms 52 ms xe-10-1-0.lon10.ip.tiscali.net [89.149.185.74]
    11 54 ms 54 ms 53 ms tiscali.killercreation.co.uk [77.67.65.34]
    12 55 ms 53 ms 53 ms server.directclanhosting.com [81.19.217.216]

    Trace complete.
     
  16. nightwing`

    nightwing` ㋡ taguZ! ツ Pato`

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    Code:
    |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
    |                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    |                            login.router -    0 |  601 |  601 |    0 |    0 |   16 |    0 |
    |                   194-79-94-17.nr.ip.pt -    0 |  601 |  600 |    0 |   16 |   47 |   15 |
    |                           195.23.197.93 -   77 |  600 |  143 |    0 |   16 |   46 |   16 |
    |                           195.23.197.10 -    0 |  600 |  600 |    0 |   16 |   78 |   16 |
    |                          195.219.185.25 -   11 |  600 |  536 |    0 |   22 |  125 |   15 |
    |                          195.219.185.38 -    0 |  600 |  600 |    0 |   16 |   47 |   16 |
    |    if-4-1-0.core2.WV6-Madrid.as6453.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   15 |   29 |   78 |   16 |
    |      ix-1-2.core2.WV6-Madrid.as6453.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   15 |   32 |  141 |   31 |
    |           xe-8-1-0.lon10.ip.tiscali.net -    1 |  600 |  598 |   46 |   53 |  156 |   47 |
    |            tiscali.killercreation.co.uk -    0 |  600 |  600 |   46 |   53 |  266 |   46 |
    |            server.directclanhosting.com -    1 |  600 |  599 |   46 |   51 |  125 |   47 |
    |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
       WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir  ( stanimir@cr.nivis.com )

    I ran the WinMTR while some guys were playing on the server, doesn't look good, my connection is a joke...



    just one apart, here's the tracert to the DoG server:
    Code:
    |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
    |                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    |                            login.router -    0 |  601 |  601 |    0 |    0 |   31 |    0 |
    |                   194-79-94-17.nr.ip.pt -    0 |  601 |  601 |    0 |   16 |   93 |   16 |
    |                           195.23.197.93 -   75 |  601 |  153 |    0 |   16 |   32 |   16 |
    |              195-23-98-173.net.novis.pt -   46 |  600 |  328 |   31 |   35 |  125 |   31 |
    |              195-23-15-218.net.novis.pt -    0 |  600 |  600 |   16 |   34 |  188 |   31 |
    | TenGigabitEthernet1-4.ar2.mad1.gblx.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   16 |   51 |  406 |  156 |
    |             te1-3-10G.ar3.CDG2.gblx.net -    1 |  600 |  599 |   46 |  130 | 1125 |   63 |
    |                   prs-b4-link.telia.net -    1 |  600 |  599 |   46 |   55 |  688 |   47 |
    |              prs-bb2-pos7-1-0.telia.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   31 |   55 |  625 |   47 |
    |                  ldn-bb1-link.telia.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   46 |   54 |  843 |   46 |
    |                   ldn-b5-link.telia.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   46 |   56 |  750 |   47 |
    |               ldn-tch-i1-link.telia.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   46 |   57 |  672 |   47 |
    |      datahop-116558-ldn-tch.c.telia.net -    0 |  600 |  600 |   46 |   66 | 1047 |   47 |
    |                           213.230.216.2 -    0 |  600 |  600 |   46 |   56 | 1063 |   47 |
    |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
       WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir  ( stanimir@cr.nivis.com )
    I used to have a good ping whitout any loss but now I get p/l and some ping jumps between 50 and 200. as the server still located in the same place the only reason to this is my connection... dunno wtf my isp is doing... :\
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2009
  17. Thrasher (_!_)

    Thrasher (_!_) =]死か栄光[=

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    Jees nightwing...raise a fault with your ISP! (Novis Telecom?)
     
  18. Dj_AL

    Dj_AL -)EaS*

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    Huge shout to DOG who set up tunnel to pug server.
    At least its playable again!

    Well done DOG!!!
    Whoever did it

    :)
     
  19. MeetYourMaker

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    Thanks, 5 years after it was setup?
     
  20. Dj_AL

    Dj_AL -)EaS*

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    This tunnel bin up all the time?
    LOL then...
    why no1 told me?